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Dragon Ball - Quick Revision
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- There is basically no evidence that ROSAT is a part of the universe, literally none. Infact it's stated to exist outside of the Dimension even in Anime.
- Manga and Anime as per our discussion rules established by AKM have composite Cosmology. And recent manga chapters confirms that ROSAT is outside the universe.
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this isn’t even the hyperbolic time chamber that’s on kamis tower… and theyre both 2 different continuities
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Okay. I think that seems uncontroversial.
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Would you be willing to take a look here please?
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As much as i appreciate the comment but what is on kami's towar is gateway to Hyperbolic time chamber not the ROSAT itself, and literally Goku and Vegeta stated that it's a HTC or ROSAT and both continuity have composite Cosmology, read the rules and comment of AKM i linked in this thread in above comments.
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so youre saying toeiverse and the other continuities have the same cosmology? also I don’t see it Can you repost the link
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This is said by AKM.
This is discussion rule made after that.
Now please refrain from commenting about changing the rules whatsover. As it's not what this thread is about. And with no evidence that ROSAT is a part of the universe arguing endlessly is not helping anything whatsover.
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Doesn't the whole being excluded from the "strongest in the universe" rank happening via being in a place that doesn't exist in the universe imply the Afterlife isn't a part of the universe (as it doesn't extend to the Afterlife) in the DBS Manga? That definitely contradicts the information currently accepted for the Super Anime.
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toei has clearing differences, also there is not a single evidence for the ROSAT to be part of the universe
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says who?
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Nope?
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The prospect of Goku dying back in Namek meant no longer being the strongest in the universe, even though he always keeps his body and power when going to the Afterlife.
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It causes U1-12 to turn into 3-A structures and the whole Timeline becomes a Low 2-C one. Also subsequent scaling would need to follow suit.
So it is kind of controversial.
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Not really, it looks like the rule uses Rosat as a separate space time in the time stream to argue multiple space times can exist in a single timeline, it being a part of the universe doesn’t really matter if it’s in the same timeline
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Now I want to see where they are going to get excuses for this
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At least that’s how I interpreted it
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Also where was goku when granolah made his wish, it should help the argument if they were in otherworld
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He was in Beerus' world which is just some random planet in space.
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Beerus planet, multiverse, DBZ manga, changes nothing as we still consider Afterlife being a part of the Universe 7 also it doesn't prove ROSAT is inside the universe, what's more, the statement has been made that it's outside the universe over Dragonball granting wish of "being strongest in the universe" which will not set up to mortal realm only as of what most mortal thinks but the totality unless difference is made or context it.
So There is no evidence but against it there is.
So There is no evidence but against it there is.
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But if this criteria of being included in the wish is treated as determining being part of the universe or not, how would the Afterlife be part of the universe when it's the same as the Rosat in this case?
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cool, that uses the same context to separate room from time from the universe, but you can't use the afterlife that separates from the universe too, good my friend, there's so much injustice in vsbttles that only God in the cause.
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Stated to be a part of the Universe7, shown to be a part of the universe 7.
Has no evidence of being part of the universe, nor stated nor shown but assumption.
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When is the Afterlife directly stated to be part of the universe? I can think of several instances that imply it isn't. And using the wish and strongest in the universe rank on its own is counterevidence to it being so, since being excluded from that title is by result of not existing in the universe, which is stated to be the case for going to the Afterlife.
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Entire TOP arc, Akira toriyama Map, BoG arc.
How? How Goku defeating frieza change anything?
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Would you like to show evidence?
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I would like to know what is the proof that manga and anime have composite cosmology. I don't remember anywhere that mentions this, I don't know if it's in guides or interviews, but there must be some reason for cosmology to be composed. You can't come out and say that cosmology is composite without having some source to come to that conclusion. If someone can show me why cosmology is composed, I would appreciate it.
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Toby, if you don't know anything. Please do not comment. It's kind of derailing when you are doing it. I've done my job, this is supporters of the verse dealing to provide evidence for something that has no evidence but racontradicted.
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Basically manga follows Akira toriyama's world view which is followed by anime staff, so it's a discussion rule of the wiki.
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sorry i don't think i see your point?
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that seems to make sense to me, thanks.
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I don't remember where in BoG they said that the Afterlife is part of the universe. The ToP Arc doesn't directly say anything about the other places being part of the universe, the other places being erased is just by consequence of them all being systematically connected.
The Anime says Frieza ruled most of Universe 7 in his time and that they could get back to ruling 70% of it after being revived, and the manga and its interval specials say that the Galactic Patrol are dispatched throughout the entire area of U7. That directly excludes the Afterlife from it.
How does Toriyama's map imply it's part of the universe? He specifically outlines the bottom part as the universe, not the whole thing.
この中が宇宙 "this is the universe"
It's not about him defeating anyone, it's the fact that it was considered that him dying from Namek exploding meant that he would no longer be the strongest in the universe, even though he immediately reappears with his body and power intact in the Afterlife.
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Since someone brought it up before :
the Daizenshuu is perfectly usable. The only part we discarded is the Infinite Galaxies one.
the Daizenshuu is perfectly usable. The only part we discarded is the Infinite Galaxies one.
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If the Afterlife is part of the universe, why would Goku going there mean he loses his rank as the strongest in the universe despite being the undisputed strongest around at the time?
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i don't see anything related to the topic
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For some reason this link is not opening for me. lol. Could you please give a summary of what it says there? being related to the topic of the thread, of course.
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