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Basically whatever dimension/space time the ROSAT is, it's still part of the structure of the macrocosm known as Universe 7.
I think that's probably the reasoning.
I think that's probably the reasoning.
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Dragon Ball - Quick Revision
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other universes wasn't established at this point is not a proof besides a scan will be appreciated if it's a part of the universe as frieza statement already contradicts it whatsover.
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Multiverse wasn't introduced so therefore by default becomes part of universe 7 is a bad argument. You do agree that its a dimension outside conventional universe ? There is nothing such as an unconventional universe
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I see, I am fine with the reasoning that it's a part of the universe because other universes wasn't established yet only if profile states it so that it is known that it is considered valid thing here on wiki.
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Yeah, it should be re-worded better.
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I don't think that the RoSAT is a part of U7. Even without the manga, it was still a sealed and closed off dimension away from the rest of Universe 7.
Even if it was, it's a pocket dimension that's not universal in size meaning it doesn't actually affects the cosmology, as destroying it alongisde U7 doesn't make you Low 2-C
If there's proof for it being actually in U7, then the proof should be linked in the message
Even if it was, it's a pocket dimension that's not universal in size meaning it doesn't actually affects the cosmology, as destroying it alongisde U7 doesn't make you Low 2-C
If there's proof for it being actually in U7, then the proof should be linked in the message
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how can it be outside the universe but still in the universe?
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Yeah, only arguement so far there is, is that other universes wasn't established at this point.
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It doesn't even matter though. Even in the Cell and Buu Saga it was treated as a closed off and sealed dimension away from U7.
The fact other universes exist doesn't affect this at all
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the point here is that at this point in the franchise there was no established multiverse, everything was part of a universe composed of small parallel dimensions. And about freeza, the speech doesn't help you at all, since he just remembered something that had already been established in dbz, where the room of time is completely isolated from the conventional universe. we can call Dragon ball cosmology a macrocosm, a set of dimensions in a single one.
not a bad argument, since as the multiverse was not yet established, the dimensions defaulted to the dimensions of the universe. as I've said before, we can call universe 7 a tiny multiverse. And yes, I agree with the room of time separate from the conventional universe. conventional universe that I am referring to would be the universe where all events occur. what I'm trying to say is that, the room of time is separate from the conventional universe, but at the same time included in the parallel dimensions of universe 7.
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Why do you guys keep referring to the Super manga?
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Why asked the question tho? I mean just asking because I didn't understood the intent...
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Because you keep referring to the Super manga.
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Okay because it's states that ROSAT is outside the universe.
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The manga and the anime are separate continuities.
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Whose Cosmology are accepted to be same here stated by AKM and mentioned in many thread and rules that information from manga/anime can change it.
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My point still stands. Nothing suggest ROSAT is a part of universe 7. Its purely based off assumption
No. They are different.
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Still waiting for supporters to give evidence or logic for ROSAT to be considered part of the universe. @Irineu gave a good reasoning that other universes weren't established at this moment which I am not sure if enough.
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Can I see where they said this?
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We are currently discussing whether evidence from DBZ and DBS Anime are sufficient to assume ROSAT to inside universe 7. @Gilad_Hyperstar considers ROSAT to be outside universe 7 and @Nullflowerblush considers it to be part of universe 7. Preferably Need some staff input
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Post in thread 'Question about dragon ball universe size' https://vsbattles.com/threads/question-about-dragon-ball-universe-size.133453/post-4620288
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I also think
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I am using what's supposedly are the discussion rules :
"We do not use the Daizenshuu (and guides based on Daizenshuu) as a reliable source to determine Universe 7's size because many claims regarding universe's size and structure like the existence of four galaxies, or them existing infinitely, the universe being infinite, the afterlife being infinite, etc. have been found contradictory. The cosmology is subject to change only if we get new information from the ongoing anime/manga."
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I think AKM shouldn't be mentioned here, she doesn't want to talk about DB anymore, I also think her arguments about the verse are unfair.
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These are rules and we follow them, Cosmology of manga/anime is composite here on wiki. We treat Cosmology of manga canon to anime.
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I'm laughing a lot at this, my God, there are not only four Galaxies, they are sectors observed by the Kaioshins, apart from the fact that the work itself refutes their arguments, where there are countless galaxies and infinite Galaxies in DB, and in DBS several existing Galaxies are presented, you don't know how to interpret things, now I understand why the DB is nerfed here, the databook was made by Akira toriyama, do you even want to contract that?
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but i'm cool lol, just laughing a little, for the misinterpretation here and there, i think DB really should go through people who understand the verse, DB needs a rough revision, so it doesn't work same
Four Galaxies, lol
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Shouldn't we also consider Ultimate Gohan, Super Saiyan Blue, Ultra Instinct, and the Gods of Destruction as composite, then?
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And those characters aren't the topic here anyway.
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Cosmology and Scaling are different things
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The subject in question directly ties back to the Multiverse being 2-C.
How come? The two are, at the end of the day, very distinct and separate mediums and continuities. Nothing suggests that the two intersect at any point, so why should the two cosmologies intersect? If statements from the manga can be applied to the anime, then anime Beerus should have Ultra Ego, and anime Zamasu should have Mid-Godly Regeneration.
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as I said, this is only about U7. Nothing about multiverse and seprate universes.
Rules sorry.
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tbf, i am just using that scan as a tertiary canon to what's unclear and vague.
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The thing that OP found on a few of the profiles? That is this.
The Multiverse is considered a 2-C structure, rather than a Low 2-C structure, because of the logic revolving around the Room of Spirit and Time. This thread is a verse-wide revision.
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Yeah, universes being seprate spacetime continuum is fine and should stay as it is, even in discussion rules. I am only out for U7 having ROSAT as it's not.
A single Timeline can have more than one Spacetime continuum.
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Re-read.
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