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That statement on Goku being the strongest Post-Majin Buu Arc is gonna amplify his stats a lot right? Like it’s just straight forward “Goku is the strongest”
 
That statement on Goku being the strongest Post-Majin Buu Arc is gonna amplify his stats a lot right? Like it’s just straight forward “Goku is the strongest”
I mean, not really? It only means that Goku was already ahead of Gohan by BoG, which he then surpasses even more because of SSJ God.

And it doesn't even give him Arale scaling either (I always thought that was dumb as hell anyways) because clearly she's still above him by that filler episode in Super
 
I mean, not really? It only means that Goku was already ahead of Gohan by BoG, which he then surpasses even more because of SSJ God.
Puts him high into 4-B for Daima so it is notable
And it doesn't even give him Arale scaling either (I always thought that was dumb as hell anyways) because clearly she's still above him by that filler episode in Super
She's in her own series I don't care for Dr Slump's scaling
 
Depending on Kai stuff, might get BoG Goku for Anime Super some nice scaling. Mayhe even some justification for that (dumb) Buu Saga scaling post-fusion.
It might help with that yeah lol, but I'm pretty sure Daima is for the manga continuity and not the anime/kai
 
Why do you think that?
Due to a past CRT, Goku absorbing God into base was removed from the DBS Manga continuity. If SS3 Goku scales above Ultimate Gohan at the start of Daima then that inherently upgrades all of the low tiers (Magetta, Frost, Piccolo, Cabba, Botamo, Trunks, Pre-Zenkai Black, Pre-HTC Vegeta, etc) by several hundred times. Just a quick examination of the scaling chain tells me that Super Saiyan Black would be stronger than Super Vegito from this one little statement by the narrator.
 
Depending on Kai stuff, might get BoG Goku for Anime Super some nice scaling. Mayhe even some justification for that (dumb) Buu Saga scaling post-fusion.
Daima is continuing from the manga isn't it? DBS Anime isn't currently on this site, so what happens in it shouldn't affect the former
 
So I thought this episode was really great. Glad we got some extra lore about the demon realm. Though at the same time, I'm kinda worried about consistency to the story. I don't want there to be some sort of infinite multiverse reveal or something like that, though unfortunately that may be where the story is headed with what was shown. I'm already sick enough of the ridiculous upgrades and multipliers on this site using the whole Macrosm argument and space-time continuum bs, and I'd rather not have to see the characters all become 2-C or something. I'd also prefer not to have inconsistencies with the storyline; now that Kibito and Shin have unfused again, I hope they're refused by the end of the story so as not to ignore the fact they'd been fused at the start of Super.
 
So I thought this episode was really great. Glad we got some extra lore about the demon realm. Though at the same time, I'm kinda worried about consistency to the story. I don't want there to be some sort of infinite multiverse reveal or something like that, though unfortunately that may be where the story is headed with what was shown. I'm already sick enough of the ridiculous upgrades and multipliers on this site using the whole Macrosm argument and space-time continuum bs, and I'd rather not have to see the characters all become 2-C or something. I'd also prefer not to have inconsistencies with the storyline; now that Kibito and Shin have unfused again, I hope they're refused by the end of the story so as not to ignore the fact they'd been fused at the start of Super.
I think the cosmology scaling stuff should not matter at all with the quality of the story, it's definitely just there for world building and not to appease to any powerscalers.

I think the bigger issue is how vague it could be, instead of being direct with it
 
So I thought this episode was really great. Glad we got some extra lore about the demon realm. Though at the same time, I'm kinda worried about consistency to the story. I don't want there to be some sort of infinite multiverse reveal or something like that, though unfortunately that may be where the story is headed with what was shown.
i don't think we have enough to affirm that yet.........Infinite sized universe on the other hand.....Mmmm

I'd also prefer not to have inconsistencies with the storyline; now that Kibito and Shin have unfused again, I hope they're refused by the end of the story so as not to ignore the fact they'd been fused at the start of Super.
maybe Super isn't canon to it, idk
 
I mean, if there really were infinite universes, how would that co-exist with the large narrative point in super that there exist only 12 universes?

Do they mean 12 that matter? Are all the other universes we potentially just saw variations of the main 12? Do we even know if the things we saw were actually universes? Is this even canon anymore? Does Goku solo?

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Daima
 
I think the cosmology scaling stuff should not matter at all with the quality of the story, it's definitely just there for world building and not to appease to any powerscalers.

I think the bigger issue is how vague it could be, instead of being direct with it
I agree it shouldn't matter with the quality of the story, but it's still just there nagging me. At the end of the day, all I care about is consistency and visibly showing feats that reflect the strength. Guess I've only got myself to blame for getting invested in the powerscaling aspect of Dragon Ball. I do hope that they're clear with what this means instead of being vague

Regardless, I am still looking forward to the anime.
 
I mean in my opinion the only way for there to be a canon infinite multiverse is if they simply canonize Heroes. Which wouldn’t even be that out there, because all of its initial lore that was branched out from was made by Toriyama for Dragon Ball Online. So it wouldn’t be breaking any new ground, just re-treading and adapting Toriyama’s original scope and ideas that always were intended by him for the end of Dragon Ball’s characters and its future into the mainstream media.
 
I mean, if there really were infinite universes, how would that co-exist with the large narrative point in super that there exist only 12 universes?

Do they mean 12 that matter? Are all the other universes we potentially just saw variations of the main 12? Do we even know if the things we saw were actually universes? Is this even canon anymore? Does Goku solo?

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Daima
I don't think would change anything, even because the knowledge of the Gods is limited to the 12 Universes, the rest could very well be other alternate Universes as explained in the Zamasu saga and could give a very detailed explanation
 
I mean in my opinion the only way for there to be a canon infinite multiverse is if they simply canonize Heroes. Which wouldn’t even be that out there, because all of its initial lore that was branched out from was made by Toriyama for Dragon Ball Online. So it wouldn’t be breaking any new ground, just re-treading and adapting Toriyama’s original scope and ideas that always were intended by him for the end of Dragon Ball’s characters and its future into the mainstream media.
From what I've heard, it seems that Dragon Ball Online is canon according to Akira Toriyama. I've never played it and I don't even know what it's about, but he seems to be involved.

 
I mean, if there really were infinite universes, how would that co-exist with the large narrative point in super that there exist only 12 universes?

Do they mean 12 that matter? Are all the other universes we potentially just saw variations of the main 12? Do we even know if the things we saw were actually universes? Is this even canon anymore? Does Goku solo?

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Daima
Hyperuniverses that encompass countless ordinary universes 😏
 
I mean, if there really were infinite universes, how would that co-exist with the large narrative point in super that there exist only 12 universes?

Do they mean 12 that matter? Are all the other universes we potentially just saw variations of the main 12? Do we even know if the things we saw were actually universes? Is this even canon anymore? Does Goku solo?

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Daima
We were already told in interviews and shit that there are infinite """"""hyper timelines""""""" as this site puts it. Basically an infinite amount of those same 12 universes out there
 
We were already told in interviews and shit that there are infinite """"""hyper timelines""""""" as this site puts it. Basically an infinite amount of those same 12 universes out there
Only in DB Games Verse, canon Dragon Ball is accepted as having a cosmology of 5 timelines.

Note 3: The full Dragon Ball cosmology is compromised of 5 alternate timelines, represented each by a Time Rings, with alternate timelines only being created after history is changed via time travel, with the creation of alternate timelines being considered a serious crime in verse as time is only supposed to flow in one direction, in context meaning only 1 timeline without it branching(accepted in this thread)
 
I mean in my opinion the only way for there to be a canon infinite multiverse is if they simply canonize Heroes. Which wouldn’t even be that out there, because all of its initial lore that was branched out from was made by Toriyama for Dragon Ball Online. So it wouldn’t be breaking any new ground, just re-treading and adapting Toriyama’s original scope and ideas that always were intended by him for the end of Dragon Ball’s characters and its future into the mainstream media.
it would severely contradict the Goku Black Arc in the DBS Anime and make make no sense tho
 
I mean, if there really were infinite universes, how would that co-exist with the large narrative point in super that there exist only 12 universes?

Do they mean 12 that matter? Are all the other universes we potentially just saw variations of the main 12? Do we even know if the things we saw were actually universes? Is this even canon anymore? Does Goku solo?

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Daima
Hehe, super smash bros lmao
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I don't think would change anything, even because the knowledge of the Gods is limited to the 12 Universes, the rest could very well be other alternate Universes as explained in the Zamasu saga and could give a very detailed explanation
the Zamasu saga explicit says and shows that there is only 5 Alternate timelines tho, that is the entire point and basis for why Zamasu took issue with Trunks even......"Universe" here could only mean the ones like the 12 universes.......which wouldn't make sense as it is said only 12 exist

i think that it is only that there is infinite points of entry into the 12 Universes' spaces, meaning each is infinite in size
 
the Zamasu saga explicit says and shows that there is only 5 Alternate timelines tho, that is the entire point and basis for why Zamasu took issue with Trunks even......"Universe" here could only mean the ones like the 12 universes.......which wouldn't make sense as it is said only 12 exist

i think that it is only that there is infinite points of entry into the 12 Universes' spaces, meaning each is infinite in size
There could of been other boxes especially in the anime, also in heros There are alot of timelines that just don't count for over loading the time palace place, it could be filled qith unies like that. It would make sense they also don't make a time ring. It especially works sense xeniverse 2 says the goku black ark is what led Trunks to joining and making the time patrol so there being more rings after it isn't an issue, the timeline explosion wouldn't happen tell after black
 
From what I've heard, it seems that Dragon Ball Online is canon according to Akira Toriyama. I've never played it and I don't even know what it's about, but he seems to be involved.


why does everyone always use french scans? i love the country, looks lovely, but why? so specific
 
why does everyone always use french scans? i love the country, looks lovely, but why? so specific
Why can't we use it? Is there something against the French language? I love French ( right after there is a Japanese image there i think it's Japanese, i don't know, just translate it if you want)
 
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