Dragon Ball Clean-Up and Revisions

[ByAsura]

Huh why

Gohan is a special case as his ssj2 form is actually his true power. That's why he was actually hurt by super perfect cell despite being able to kill cell at half power

Because Gohan doubts himself and that in turn makes him weaker. So it should be 2 times for Goku and Vegeta because Gohan is basically a special case

Gohan isn't his special case, the form itself was unleashed by his rage, not amped by a rage boost. Plus, literally everyone reaches power levels above Gohan with this form in the Cell Saga gap, and Gohan is consistently comparable to other characters with this form in every piece of DB media.

 

[RisingIons]

Rather than Kaiōshin-sama making planets, he is able to provide the impetus for them to be born. Also, he will sometimes divide up one planet and increase the number of planets. He will even do things like create life-forms, or transplant them from another planet, but his basic job is to watch over the numerous planets. Because the number of planets is so very large, the four Kaiō-sama help him out as well. They intervene if it appears that the world’s balance will crumble, but normally, they merely act in an advisory role for new life-forms, and don’t get involved. In order to provide a balance to the constantly increasing number of planets, the God of Destruction destroys [them], but he does not act on Kaiōshin’s orders; he destroys according to his own individual judgment. Except, he is capricious, so he will destroy even an important world without a second thought, or when he finds it bothersome, let someone else act as an agent of destruction.
— “Dragon Ball Chōzenshū 1: Story & World Guide” (p. 31)

Translations | Chōzenshū 1 – We Asked Akira Toriyama! 2013

The first Chōzenshū Q&A session with Dragon Ball original author Akira Toriyama

www.kanzenshuu.com

Source ^

 

[ByAsura]

How's this?

Large Star level (Far superior to Kibito, who's almost on par with Base Gohan, and Buu Saga Piccolo. Can one-shot Frieza)

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Wait... rest in piece large star+? Yes that does look good by asura.

 

[ByAsura]

Yeah, it's kind of a shame because it worked for ratings.

Also, Hoshi can mean planet or stars, but the former is usually safer. Though I might be thinking of Kid Buu's statements, but there was a description that said "Planets and stars". But I think I also agree that it's more so stated Shin only created planets.

Tbh, I never really got this. We clearly see that the celestial body is intact and the life is scoured during Shin's description, so it's extremely likely he's just referring to Buu exterminating life on planets. This is substantiated not only by Shin's wording, but the fact that Vegeta claims Saiyans could do this.

 

[Spinoirr]

Funny how they jump from large star level to solar system level in the megafoe range lol

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yeah, it's kind of a shame because it worked for ratings.

Tbh, I never really got this. We clearly see that the celestial body is intact and the life is scoured during Shin's description, so it's extremely likely he's just referring to Buu exterminating life on planets. This is substantiated not only by Shin's wording, but the fact that Vegeta claims Saiyans could do this.

Where you see that the planet is intact?

 

[ByAsura]

Bottom left of the panel. It's a world with an alien carcass.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I see, though Kid Buu is no stranger to just destroying the planet itself, since it also destroyed the Earth the moment he finished transforming

I guess this is just an evidence of Kid Buu's chaotic and unpredictable nature, as while he could destroy all life in the planet, he can also just nuke it entirely for no reason

 

[RisingIons]

Also via that statement, they aren’t creating the planets themselves, but providing the conditions for a planet to be created. They still scale above frieza but I think the distinction should be known that they don’t actually create celestial bodies.

 

[ByAsura]

Yeah, I looked at the subs. It just says "gods who create things."

 

[AKM sama]

They still scale above frieza

Shouldn't they scale above Piccolo?

 

[ByAsura]

They will.

How's this?

Large Star level (Far superior to Kibito, who's almost on par with Base Gohan, and Buu Saga Piccolo. Can one-shot Frieza)

 

[AKM sama]

Sounds good.

 

[ByAsura]

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