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that's grace
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Dracule Mihawk vs Silvers Rayleigh
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PrinceofPein
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Acting like a dick won't make you heard any louder
So vista scales to oldbeard too?
Uhhmmm strongest swordman not strongest man, if its by statements no one scales to kaido or WB
What's wrong?
Old beard= kizaru = Rayleigh >>>> vista = mihawk
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Besides the fact that this isn't the accepted scaling on the profiles you've also provided no reasoning for this version of scaling either.
The current accepted and applied scaling is as follows, anything else you claim is literally invalid unless you decide to make a CRT on the subject:
Oldbeard = 26.6 Teratons
Shanks = Olbeard = 26.6 Teratons
Mihawk > Shanks = Oldbeard = 26.6 Teratons
For the admirals, Rayleigh and WB commanders scaling:
Gura Gura BB = 14.3 Teratons
Akainu > Gura Gura BB = 14.3 Teratons
Admiral Trio ~ Akainu > Gura Gura BB = 14. 3 Teratons
Kizaru ~ Rayleigh
Marco = Admirals
The other WB Commanders (Jozu, Vista & Ace) scale Possibly to the admirals via their feats, so "Possibly 14.3 Teratons".
Please refer to this rather than your own or make a CRT to apply your scaling instead.
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You'd have to argue with oda to break my own scaling chain not ur head canon calc
So vista >>> kizaru and old beard
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Dude, this is already accepted and applied to the profiles. Arguing on a VS thread won't change that. You can make a CRT if you want, but know that it'll probably not be accepted because this scaling is supported by a whole lot more than "headcanon".
In any case, you should definitely stop arguing about it here.
In any case, you should definitely stop arguing about it here.
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Not arguing it here
Just waiting for someone to tell me how vista scales above kizaru
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He doesn't, because we don't scale him to Mihawk off of a casual clash where he was clearly not even trying. What, you wanna scale G2 Luffy to Mihawk as well because "he kept up with him"? Vista doesn't scale to Mihawk at all, so he doesn't scale above Kizaru.
He only downscales from the Admirals scaling to the other WB commanders such as Jozu and Marco.
PrinceofPein
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Not trying?? Lol
But u scale shanks to old beard in a single clash they were not even trying?
He didn't keep up, lol u need to redefine ur definition of keep up
Stalemated him tho
According to you he does
All this is due to your own agenda not storyline tho
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@Pain_to12 if you want answers for why certain characters scale where then check the appropriate threads where the scaling was accepted, do not derail this versus thread with these questions. And as I've said before if you disagree with said scaling then make a CRT on it otherwise you're just wasting your time.
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Databook: Statement of being equals
Manga: Showing of them clashing w/ enough force to split the sky
Pain: He doesn't scale
Manga: Showing of them clashing w/ enough force to split the sky
Pain: He doesn't scale
PrinceofPein
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Sigh
Rayleigh = Kizaru = aokiji = akainu >= old beard = shanks
U might ask how akainu scale to and above old beard, a angry old beard going all out against akainu got.pipes by akainu and lost half of his face against him.
Yes thats a story scaling chain btw.
Then the reason for scaling Mihawk above shanks
Shanks: I am not in a good mood, have you come for a fight
Mihawk: As if I'd want to settle things with a man with only one arm
Yes this in no way says mihawk is above shanks, dont know about the raws, but the word 'settle' in tbis context means unfinished or he was beat at first and came back.
Edit: even mihawk knows he doesnt scale to old beard, the moment he said, "I want to know the amount of gap between me and that man" after sending that attack juzo tanked
Anyway with feat Rayleigh >>>>> mihawk
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Grace has finished, if it hasn't already this should be added and this thread should be closed.
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Can someone link me to thread where Mihawk >>> shanks was accepted?
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Yeah the scaling is definitly wrong
Using Mihawks statements but not Whitebeards statements (whose are very clear and consise unlike Mihawks is peak ignorance)
I also saw KingTempest scaling above Roger and Primebeard now since they also use Swords
Using Mihawks statements but not Whitebeards statements (whose are very clear and consise unlike Mihawks is peak ignorance)
I also saw KingTempest scaling above Roger and Primebeard now since they also use Swords
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Ace Novel reveals Whitebeard's title is derived from the fact he can use the gura gura no mi.
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still would scale his devil fruit attacks above Mihawk which right now scale to his AP
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Nope, it's just a title given to him due to possessing the Gura Gura no mi. It's why Blackbeard declared himself as the world's strongest Man after getting the same fruit despite not being stronger than any other man even with his new fruit.
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Its the strongest Paramecia thats it
Nobody said it was the strongest devil fruit actually Akainu's fruit is stated to have the highest attack power among devil fruits
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It's funny how you forgot that Whitebeard got weaker when he fought the admirals.
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Not seeing the correlation this has with what I said.
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And Akainu doesn't have the strongest fruit.
His fruit is in the HIGHEST CLASS, which is probably among the same class as the Strongest Paramecia.
You want Rayleigh > WB so bad
His fruit is in the HIGHEST CLASS, which is probably among the same class as the Strongest Paramecia.
You want Rayleigh > WB so bad
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when did I say I wanted Rayleigh > WB
Rayleigh would lose to Mihawk anyways just pointing out how the scaling chain is stupid (Mihawk should scale above Zoro who can damage Kaido so he would still win)
The fact that he has the Gura Gura no mi does not matter when people with devil fruits considered to have the strongest attack power/highest class aren't
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Ok? That's not the point I was making at all, I'm saying that title was given to Whitebeard because he possessed that fruit, and Blackbeard after also getting that fruit claimed he possessed the same title. I'm not claiming the gura gura no mi is the strongest fruit nor does it make you stronger than everyone else. Just that the title refers to the person who's in possession of the fruit.
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Literally make a crt or stfu. Seriously tired of you acting as if you're a staff member with an insightful opinion. And that goes to the both of you, and your buddy Pain.
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Not you, the Pain guy
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This thread should be closed after the results are added. If these guys want to make a CRT later, that's within their rights, but arguing about it here is utterly pointless.
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I’m not near my computer, someone please go put this in the vs addition request thread
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