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Chariot190 said:
idk, SP is at 1.1 tons. So if they're scaling back from SP, using HG as an example again, he's strong enough to harm him but probably not kill unless SP just stood there and took it. Also strong enough to survive blows from him, but said blows knock you on your ass.

Meaning theyre good against characters that are below + but if theyre above + they get outmatched quite quickly. Theyre in a weird limbo.
In other words they don't have an exact value?
 
No, most verses that use scaling dont. We just know theyre comparable and strong enough to contend with SP, but SP is still stronger even if it's just barely in some cases (like with Chariot, who can kill Star Platinum if not careful, HG who made Jotaro puke up blood and Thev World, who's basically the same, although a few are likely stronger like GER).
 
The stands are hovering between 0.76 tons to 1.1 tons.
 
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