Douglass Bullet AP Downgrade Thread

[KingTempest]

Douglass Bullet scales to 3x Zoro's movie AP for the logic of Gear Fourth (which he matched) being a 3x multiplier from Gear Third, which scaled to if not above Zoro.

We've recently revised the multiplier and it is now 3x Base Luffy, not Gear Third.
Because of that, his Country level end would crumble.

All that's needed is to remove his country level end from his profile.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I disagree. Zoro’s calc is almost baseline Country (6.715 teratons) and with the new upscaling rules, bullet would be country regardless. I do agree with the 3x multiplier problem, but this doesn’t downgrade his tier.

 

[KingTempest]

So we upscale him to country, alright, but he doesn't scale to 3x Zoro

 

[StrawHatArslan]

So we upscale him to country, alright, but he doesn't scale to 3x Zoro

I can agree with that for sure.

 

[Eminiteable]

Yeah I agree with this.

 

[XDragnoir]

I disagree. Zoro’s calc is almost baseline Country (6.715 teratons) and with the new upscaling rules, bullet would be country regardless. I do agree with the 3x multiplier problem, but this doesn’t downgrade his tier.

So we should remove the L6B end instead, since he is upscaling to the next tier, an upgrade and a downgrade at the same time LMAO.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Pretty much

 

[theultimate5105]

While were at this him scaling to FTL+ makes no sense Kizaru was shown to be a threat in stampede which wouldn't be the case if anyone could blitz him

 

[KingTempest]

While were at this him scaling to FTL+ makes no sense Kizaru was shown to be a threat in stampede which wouldn't be the case if anyone could blitz him

This is for AP

 

[theultimate5105]

This is for AP

Its still a bullet downgrade thread so its a good time to bring it up

 

[KingTempest]

Its still a bullet downgrade thread so its a good time to bring it up

Kizaru's combat speed in movie > travel speed in manga

Feats > whatever is shown

 

[theultimate5105]

Kizaru's combat speed in movie > travel speed in manga

Feats > whatever is shown

Why would he use it then if he was so much faster then his light beams it would be better to just physically attack with his flight

 

[KingTempest]

Why would he use it then if he was so much faster then his light beams it would be better to just physically attack with his flight

You do know what combat speed is correct?

 

[theultimate5105]

You do know what combat speed is correct?

Yeah do you his attacks would be harder to block and faster if he was FTL in combat speed so why would he use his beams

 

[KingTempest]

Yeah do you his attacks would be harder to block and faster if he was FTL in combat speed so why would he use his beams

Everybody blocks and dodges his beams this isn't special

 

[theultimate5105]

Everybody blocks and dodges his beams this isn't special

Again give me a reason he wouldn't use his FTL+ Combat speed if his Beams were LS

 

[KingTempest]

Again give me a reason he wouldn't use his FTL+ Combat speed if his Beams were LS

Who said he didn't use his FTL+ combat speed? That's his regular combat speed in the movie

 

[Eminiteable]

Again give me a reason he wouldn't use his FTL+ Combat speed if his Beams were LS

Range

 

[theultimate5105]

Who said he didn't use his FTL+ combat speed? That's his regular combat speed in the movie

Again you said he used his beams which are LS why would he use them if he was FTL+ he would be legit almost be able to statue them

 

[KingTempest]

Again you said he used his beams which are LS why would he use them if he was FTL+ he would be legit almost be able to statue them

quote where i said he used his beams

 

[theultimate5105]

Range

Also he could use his travel speed and go after them with his attacks which would be much faster and more dynamic

 

[Eminiteable]

Also he could use his travel speed and go after them with his attacks which would be much faster and more dynamic

Yeah and he could get harmed due to haki, range is range.

 

[theultimate5105]

quote where i said he used his beams

and avoiding the subject now

 

[KingTempest]

and avoiding the subject now

You:

Again you said he used his beams which are LS

Me:

quote where i said he used his beams

You:

and avoiding the subject now

You're derailing the thread, the OP is about AP. Please exit

 

[theultimate5105]

You:

Me:

You:



You're derailing the thread, the OP is about AP. Please exit

Oh now complaining about talking about Bullet on a bullet thread when you are happy to talk about stuff that is not the subject on other threads

 

[theultimate5105]

Yeah and he could get harmed due to haki, range is range.

He wouldn't do it if they were FTL+ which they could easily all statue the beams and dodge them

 

[KingTempest]

Oh now complaining about talking about Bullet on a bullet thread when you are happy to talk about stuff that is not the subject on other threads

No, I'm asking you to refrain about talking about speed in an attack potency thread where his speed has nothing to do with his attack potency.

And please, if you have an issue with me on other threads, I have a message wall for a reason. Exit my CRT

 

[Eminiteable]

He wouldn't do it if they were FTL+ which they could easily all statue the beams and dodge them

They are FTL+, that's what got calced lol

 

[theultimate5105]

They are FTL+, that's what got calced lol

a Calc that ignores the context of the verse

 

[KingTempest]

a Calc that ignores the context of the verse

Go make a CRT about the calc so it can get removed

 

[theultimate5105]

No, I'm asking you to refrain about talking about speed in an attack potency thread where his speed has nothing to do with his attack potency.

And please, if you have an issue with me on other threads, I have a message wall for a reason. Exit my CRT

This is literally a small bullet thread about his stats stop complaining about it and form arguments the other guy has formed solid comprehensive arguments yet all you do is complain

 

[KingTempest]

This is literally a small bullet thread about his stats stop complaining about it and form arguments the other guy has formed solid comprehensive arguments yet all you do is complain

How are you going to tell me what my thread is about? It's about AP. The OP strictly talks about AP.

I said stop derailing, you won't. Please, talk about the OP and then we can move to speed or something, we haven't even concluded the issue in the OP

 

[joshpiece]

I disagree. Zoro’s calc is almost baseline Country (6.715 teratons) and with the new upscaling rules, bullet would be country regardless. I do agree with the 3x multiplier problem, but this doesn’t downgrade his tier.

I agree with this.

 

[theultimate5105]

For Ap I agree

 

[SupremeNiva]

Agree with the downgrade