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Don't know if this is a stomp, but let's go

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Ax has no wincons here, he can't do anything against asriel's type four. So Ax fights for a long time but is eventually overwhelmed by danmuku and soul hax. This isn't valid from what I can tell, it just seems to be a stomp. The literal best case scenario for AX is holding off asriel nothing he does can actually put the goat down, there is no situation where he actually wins this.
 
This is a stomp as he has no win conditions, unless he was bloodlusted and he can mind hax him, but other than that. No
 
Then he has a wincon. Therefore, the match is valid.

Would he lead with that before getting soulhaxed?
 
No. Either Telekinesis or just straight up punch before deciding on Mind Hax, but it'll probably to late before then
 
Then Goat God takes this via soulhax and Type 4 if anything wrong happens.
 
Hmmm, even tho this is added already, why would X let himself get hit by a soulhax beam? (there are time manipulation beams in Ben 10 that can time him out so he might not be too cocky to let himself get hit) He can stop time or teleport to dodge, punch Asriel and when he comes back mind hax. Or he could just start with telekinesis and mindhax cause Asriel looks like fodder to him.
 
Asriel have acausality, so time manipulation wouldn't work, and speed is equalized, he can't dodge every Asriel attack, and punch Asriel wouldn't cause him damage
 
Acausality only negs time paradoxes not all time manipulation, doesn't matter cause he can time stop, it does damage but he just comes back from it no, if it doesn't damage then he has even more reason to mind hax or maybe create a pseudo-black hole but that would probably backfire.

Also he can actually succesfully BFR Asriel (but would be OOC to do so) because Professor Paradox stated only he, people with the Map of Infinity or Celestialsapiens can access The Forge Of Creation, this means that aliens like Clockwork, who can go to all alternate timelines in Ben 10, does not have the range to get there.
 
Anyways, this already was added, Asriel have time manipulation, Alien X's black hole creation was removed
 
Sure he has it but like you all argued his entire arsenal consists of soul hax which leads me to believe he won't use it and you can't say that because he has time manipulation that he resists time stop. The feat of the black hole that is actually not a black hole still happened and I also said that it would backfire against Ben thus arguing in Asriel's favor for that specific point.
 
Asriel's Soulhax is used in every attack. There's no way he would attack without using IT.
 
We argue his entire arsenal consists of soulhax because his entire arsenal consists of soulhax
 
Ok but regardless point is that X is more trigger-happy with time manipulation than Asriel and can avoid all of Asriel's attacks that way. Who has the AP advantage btw?
 
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