Distance betwen Reiokyu and Seireitei

[TataHakai]

We can't use scaling like that without statements

This would be the equivalent of me saying Kakashi part 1 is a lightning timer so Naruto planet is several million kilometers wide cause it takes him 3 days to travel from country to country, it's essentially the same inflation as calc stacking which is why Calc stacking is banned in the first place

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

except Naruto's world is just a normal planet, this is like the previous argument when someone said it's above the clouds so it can't be that far.

 

[TataHakai]

It was just an example

but the point is that that calc uses exactly the reason why calc stacking isn't allowed

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Oh, were you talking to AppleLord about his version?

 

[TataHakai]

Yes, the one that uses lightning

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I agree with you then on that, nvm.

 

[Xulrev]

Yeah I fully back Tata there as well. It is a form of calc stacking and that leads to all sorts of problems imho.

 

[USklaverei]

But my method is not stacking and the arguments against have already been unmasked, so ...

 

[AppleLord]

But in this case that's his actual speed feat moments following the distance feat. Smh

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

The diameter accepted pro Seireitei is 1018 km, the radius is 509 km.

Oh is it? I misread then, I thought the diameter was 1018, then yup plug in 509 instead of half that, or half that if you presume Ichigo took a couple seconds.
So, double my number. Almost 17 million km then, about 2% of an AU.

This seems fine by me.

 

[Naeblis495]

i don't see the problem here

ichigo is faster than lighting casually and have been stated multiple times to have days if not months of stamina.

no air friction/resistance can be used as an argument because of his special clothes

so we just use the accepted speed of lightning this site use and aply to the time ichigo took to arrive , it's easy .

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

i don't see the problem here
ichigo is faster than lighting casually and have been stated multiple times to have days if not months of stamina.

no air friction/resistance can be used as an argument because of his special clothes

so we just use the accepted speed of lightning this site use and aply to the time ichigo took to arrive , it's easy .

It's not that easy

 

[USklaverei]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...n_Reiokyu_and_Seireitei_and_speed_of_Mimihagi

Here is my calculation, I updated it with the deadline that was currently accepted.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

How is it Calc Stacking ? Are they assuming that Ichigo stopped in mid air Even though it is impossible for Shinigami to fly in the Soul Society and in the Reiokyu ?

This ain't adding up !

 

[Naeblis495]

i don't see the problem here
ichigo is faster than lighting casually and have been stated multiple times to have days if not months of stamina.

no air friction/resistance can be used as an argument because of his special clothes

so we just use the accepted speed of lightning this site use and aply to the time ichigo took to arrive , it's easy .

It's not that easy

it's easy enough for a low ball .

we have multiple statement and argument for ichigo not slowing down where there only supositions with no basis for the fact that he slowed down mid way .

 

[HST_Master]

How is it Calc Stacking ? Are they assuming that Ichigo stopped in mid air Even though it is impossible for Shinigami to fly in the Soul Society and in the Reiokyu ?

This ain't adding up !

They can normally fly in Soul Society, the reason they couldn't is because of the Vadenreich and later Warwelch rendering them incapable of creating footholds in the air.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Shinigami cannot fly, they can make footholds.

 

[Xulrev]

They can normally fly in Soul Society, the reason they couldn't is because of the Vadenreich and later Warwelch rendering them incapable of creating footholds in the air.

I'll just let Ikkaku rebut this one

It's just creating a foothold, not technically flying. Super nitpick, but hey there was a relevant scan in-verse for it!

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

In the wise words of Ikkaku:

"I'm not flying, I'm standing."

 

[Xulrev]

In the wise words of Ikkaku:
"I'm not flying, I'm standing."

Some sort of Bleach expert YOU are; clearly the linked scans says "I'm not flying. This is standing ."

Jokes aside, is there any reason the Distance issue shouldn't be considered settled? Has anyone asked for more input? The calc stacking thing was a non-factor unless several Calc Group Members pop in to disagree, and anything else was pretty vacuous as far as opposition is considered.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

But they normally can't stand on air in the Soul Society, they mostly just Shunpo around

 

[HeisenbergByHimself]

So?

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

So?

Because otherwise there's no place for Ichigo to go orher than downwards

 

[Damage3245]

From what I can tell the series of calcs is:

1) Calcing Seireitei's size based on a statement.

2) Calcing Ichigo's speed based on that size.

3) Calcing the distance from Seireitei to the Royal Palace based on Ichigo's speed.

4) Calcing Mimihagi's speed based on that distance.

Whether it qualifies as calc-stacking or not, I don't personally know.

 

[USklaverei]

I think you're simply ignoring the fact that this talent that Ichigo was performing while he was traveling, is uninterrupted. All this is only a feat.

According to its logic, then we can not calculate the Gremmy Meteor for the same reason, since we use the size of Seireitei and then we calculate the Meteor.
Lance and Cero Oscuras also can not be used, since if you follow its logic, it will also be stacked.

I think we'll have to update a lot in wiki.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

What US said. The only thing that might be considered calc stacking is Mimi's speed being derived from a distance gotten via Ichigo's speed.

If people don't like that, we can simply calc Ichigo as starting at mach 1 and just slap the accelaration of gravity on him for the duration of the fall since his robes ignored friction.

 

[Damage3245]

Do his robes ignore friction? I just thought they protected him from friction?

 

[USklaverei]

Yes, he protect

 

[Aernasilver]

The only thing that might be considered calc stacking is Mimi's speed being derived from a distance gotten via Ichigo's speed.

Using an accepted distance to calc isn't calc stacking much like how using an accepted size to calc isn't calc stacking.

 

[Sekkonds.]

so we are going with USklaverei's method?constant acceleration is good as a safe end

i get the possibility that he might have reached his max speed during the journey,but that would only suggest higher results

 

[Xulrev]

I personally think the value for Ichigo's Seireitei-crossing-jaunt is the safest value to use; I'm open to argumentation of that point but it's a solid lowball.

 

[USklaverei]

It could be too, but I believe that using acceleration is something more accurate.

 

[Heavens_Feel]

Using an accepted distance to calc isn't calc stacking much like how using an accepted size to calc isn't calc stacking.

Mm. The reason for that is because it's static and doesn't change,unlike poeples power levels or techniques or all the other variables you need to consider.

 

[Sekkonds.]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...n_Reiokyu_and_Seireitei_and_speed_of_Mimihagi

Here is my calculation, I updated it with the deadline that was currently accepted.

I think you should use these timeframes since it happened too quick as imade pointed out

 

[Sekkonds.]

Also,Bump

 

[Damage3245]

You don't need to bump something a minute after your last post.

 

[Aernasilver]

The thread won't go anywhere if you don't invite calc members to check.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

From what I've seen, I agree with all that have come before me, this is pretty clearly calc stacking

 

[Xulrev]

I'm still rather confused as to how measuring one feat is stacking a calc to itself when you're measuring one quantifiable feat, however. There need to be something to stack, which is difficult when it's one contiguous, uninterrupted feat.

So how, precisely and specifically, is this calc stacking in this instance? And why would so many other Calc Group members disagree/how is their reasoning wrong?

 

[Heavens_Feel]

Problem is Crimson didn't specify what calc he was talking about either. The OP's or Apples.

The method 2 in the OP is fine. Calc stacking requires 2 calcs to be stacked. There is only one feat occuring and here there is nothing to be stacked.

I have seen the reasoning for it being calc stacking before and, as someone who has browsed and lurked both here and OBD (which was and still probably is the best when it comes to scrutiny and calc standards) this would not be a issue. Simply because, well, where's the calc stacking?

Irrelevent points like it occuring offscreen or the fact it spanned 30 chapters feels like a desperate ploy to deny a legitimate feat at all costs and a attempt to create a false negative image to undermine it's legitimacy. Please don't pretend we're being lenient or fair with the current distance between the palace and seireitei, it's lowballed to depths the deepest oceans wouldn't reach seeing as the assumption for Ichigos speed is he just fell for seven days. So I implore you to open your mind to other possibilities and not just mentally block it out.

There is also Xulrev's method which could be further explored if need be, but i'm still in favour of the OP's second method.