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Disney Discussion Thread

Majorly stepping back from this but I came across an idea I thought might be worth a shot. In Steamboat Silly, Steamboat Mickey, essentially Mickey at his conception, is able to keep ahead in speed of Mickey and his gang. He also showcases some LS feats like restraining Goofy and Donald.

It might be possible to scale the original Mickey to his modern incarnation for that reason. Kinda like Generations+Forces scaling with Classic and Modern Sonic.



This is also consistent with the Classic variations of Donald, which also extends to his 2017 Ducktales counterpart.

 
I think that retroactive continuity seems like an unreliable scaling meachanism in this case. 🙏
 
By the way, I still greatly need help with splitting up the scaling for the different "Duckburg"-related Disney continuities. 🙏

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The Biggest Disney CRT in History (Part 1)

So, it's come to this. Months of research leading to this moment. For years, the mouse has been in purgatory. Resigned to only his theatrical shorts, but no more. Today, we bring the mouse higher. Today, we chant the name of our king. M-I-C-K-E-Y. M-O-U-S-E. You know him. I don't think there's a...
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DuckTales (original series) revision

Right now I believe we can simply purge the DuckTales profiles from any unrelated comic material and keep them strictly about cartoon content, comics profiles don't even exist as of now. That works, Cartoons are Cartoons and Comics are Comics, like the Garfield profile they never should've been...
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DimeUhDozen said:
Majorly stepping back from this but I came across an idea I thought might be worth a shot. In Steamboat Silly, Steamboat Mickey, essentially Mickey at his conception, is able to keep ahead in speed of Mickey and his gang. He also showcases some LS feats like restraining Goofy and Donald.

It might be possible to scale the original Mickey to his modern incarnation for that reason. Kinda like Generations+Forces scaling with Classic and Modern Sonic.



This is also consistent with the Classic variations of Donald, which also extends to his 2017 Ducktales counterpart.

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While i think you could try a shot on that, my main concern is how consistent it would be, considering that Pre-Modern Era Mickey pretty much doesn't have any consistent cosmic level scaling or extremely high levels of speed during it's almost 80 years of content

Antvasima said:
By the way, I still greatly need help with splitting up the scaling for the different "Duckburg"-related Disney continuities. 🙏

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The Biggest Disney CRT in History (Part 1)

So, it's come to this. Months of research leading to this moment. For years, the mouse has been in purgatory. Resigned to only his theatrical shorts, but no more. Today, we bring the mouse higher. Today, we chant the name of our king. M-I-C-K-E-Y. M-O-U-S-E. You know him. I don't think there's a...
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DuckTales (original series) revision

Right now I believe we can simply purge the DuckTales profiles from any unrelated comic material and keep them strictly about cartoon content, comics profiles don't even exist as of now. That works, Cartoons are Cartoons and Comics are Comics, like the Garfield profile they never should've been...
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There is no need for the first thread to be still open, everthing was already solved on it

Regarding the second thread (Since i commenting on it more than a year later would be considered necro): It should be simple to separate the profiles according to which continuity each piece of information on them comes from, information from the OG Ducktales goes to the 80s profile of Cartoon Scrooge, while information from Barks' comics goes to profiles dedicated to them.
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
There is no need for the first thread to be still open, everthing was already solved on it
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With "first", do you mean the one I linked to first above, rather than the one that has not received any replies for over a year?
Accelerated_Evolution said:
Regarding the second thread (Since i commenting on it more than a year later would be considered necro): It should be simple to separate the profiles according to which continuity each piece of information on them comes from, information from the OG Ducktales goes to the 80s profile of Cartoon Scrooge, while information from Barks' comics goes to profiles dedicated to them.
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Well, I think that I can give you permission to revive it, as it is important that we finally get this issue done, but you can create a new thread instead if you prefer. 🙏
 
Antvasima said:
With "first", do you mean the one I linked to first above, rather than the one that has not received any replies for over a year?
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Antvasima said:
Well, I think that I can give you permission to revive it, as it is important that we finally get this issue done, but you can create a new thread instead if you prefer. 🙏
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The best way to solve this, i think, would be just rewatching the entirety of DuckTales and other Scrooge appearences from the main Mickey Mouse Canon, rework his profile and remove every power or ability that's exclusive from the comics from it. Sadly, i don't have the time to do so now

By the way, Dime made a thread a while ago that decanonizes the Darkwing Duck from the mainline canon given it's an alternate universe, it didn't receive any staff as of now, might ping someone to evaluate it and, if possible, take a look on it yourself? (I know you are a very busy person, but Disney appears to be one of the few Verses you seen to care about regarding scaling):
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Darkwing Duck Continuity Separation

So as I was going through the Duck stuff, still a huge project that requires a lot more help than just me, I discovered something about Darkwing Duck that the wiki has gotten wrong for quite a while. Despite Launchpad appearing in the series, it is an alternate universe to Ducktales according to...
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Accelerated_Evolution said:
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I have locked it now.
Accelerated_Evolution said:
The best way to solve this, i think, would be just rewatching the entirety of DuckTales and other Scrooge appearences from the main Mickey Mouse Canon, rework his profile and remove every power or ability that's exclusive from the comics from it. Sadly, i don't have the time to do so now
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Help with that would be very appreciated, but profiles for the Carl Barks/Don Rosa canon would also be very appreciated.
Accelerated_Evolution said:
By the way, Dime made a thread a while ago that decanonizes the Darkwing Duck from the mainline canon given it's an alternate universe, it didn't receive any staff as of now, might ping someone to evaluate it and, if possible, take a look on it yourself? (I know you are a very busy person, but Disney appears to be one of the few Verses you seen to care about regarding scaling):
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Darkwing Duck Continuity Separation

So as I was going through the Duck stuff, still a huge project that requires a lot more help than just me, I discovered something about Darkwing Duck that the wiki has gotten wrong for quite a while. Despite Launchpad appearing in the series, it is an alternate universe to Ducktales according to...
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I will check. 🙏
 
Bump.

Okay. Here is my analysis for Disney's Alice in Wonderland from a powerscaling standpoint, based on all that I've watched and read:
  • "Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't" . This is explicitly talking about Wonderland's nature. This is as blatant to a "A" and "non-A", and is as a direct disregard for the Law of Non-Contradiction as any cartoon is probably going to tell someone. Contradictions are explicitly and consistently referred to be a norm. "White Rabbit being 'late' despite also simultaneously being 'two days early' , The Doorknob tells Alice, "Sorry, you’re much too big. Simply impassible." When Alice questions, "You mean impossible?", the Doorknob corrects her with a definitive, "No, impassible. Nothing’s impossible!" , amongst others. I'm not giving every single contradiction in that movie as we will be here a while, and don't get me started on Alice's Wonderland Bakery where Contradictions are way too consistent to document in a post without sounding as redundant as possible)
  • As I aforementioned earlier, Wonderland has no shortage of statements in Wonderland Bakery , even in the non-canon books, discussing that in Wonderland Anything is possible, even in the theme song, where it explicitly quotes direct contradictions as functions in how Wonderland operates, not treated as limits or even paradoxes and mentions that Nothing is impossible. Usually we stifle these kind of 'Anything is possible' statements as not including logically impossible things or only including nomological possibilities, but with Alice in Wonderland and Alice's Wonderland Bakery explicitly quoting contradictions every other major and minor scene, it's not something that we can do here
  • Every notable interview confirming the link between Alice's Wonderland Bakery and Alice in Wonderland as Alice's Wonderland Bakery being the official sequel of the 1951 movie, stating they needed permission to put the original Alice into Alice's Wonderland Bakery to keep within the Disney canon, confirming Cheshire is the same one as from Alice's Wonderland, proving that 1951 Alice's granddaughter didn't have any knowledge of Wonderland or any of it's craziness before coming to Wonderland, which subtly confirms that it is their own thing, and with offiical confirmation Alice made Wonderland as a dream
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With all of that, Wonderland would be tiered extremely highly. The issue would come from nuances such as 'Well, Alice herself isn't combat usable', and you're right, but if I do this I'm just going to argue about Wonderland's tier and how it may affect certain characters who may or may not scale to the entirety of the Disney canon universe, but that will require discussing it with others knowledgeable on Disney, which I'll do at a later date.
 
Obviously, only non-composite Neverland stuff should be applied to related profiles. (boy, Arpeggio makes me want to see a Sly Cooper blog)

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Forgive me if this is a bother, but I was browsing through this thread and noticed talk about various Disney properties being connected somehow. Does there happen to be a post or something that goes into more detail on that? I was honestly kinda curious how far it went.
 
Jimmy.robinson.5099 said:
Forgive me if this is a bother, but I was browsing through this thread and noticed talk about various Disney properties being connected somehow. Does there happen to be a post or something that goes into more detail on that? I was honestly kinda curious how far it went.
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The way I currently see it is that there are multiple timelines in which the Disney films are connected in different ways.

In the Mickey Mouse timeline, they are all connected in the same way that the Looney Tunes are. Stuff in this canon include stuff like House of Mouse, Epic Mickey, everything to deal with the concept of "Toons" and their existence.

In Descendants, they're all connected and their villains are all on the Isle of the Lost.

In the A Tale Of... novels, the books featuring multiple Disney characters are connected via an overarching narrative.

There are just a lot of different canons where they're all connected but the individual films themselves are standalone.
 
So did anybody else watch the second Zootopia movie? I really loved it. 🙏🙂❤️
 
Well,
it is a family of villains.
🙏
 
2025 was the Year of the Snake on China, which makes me wonder if Disney choose to make the film's main villain a snake so it could market it better on the country.

Knowing Disney, such hypothesis ins't a stretch
 
The villain
is not a snake. The snake is a good guy. The movie's message is one of diversity and tolerance instead of supremacism and bigotry.
🙏
 
Has anybody else here been watching Pixar's "Win or Lose" TV series? I think that it features excellent creative, kind, empathetic, humane, and well-structured storytelling, so if not, I heavily recommend it. 🙏🙂❤️
 
Antvasima said:
Has anybody else here been watching Pixar's "Win or Lose" TV series? I think that it features excellent creative, kind, empathetic, humane, and well-structured storytelling, so if not, I heavily recommend it. 🙏🙂❤️
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Didn't that one cause controversy for removing a trans storyline? I haven't heard much else about it otherwise.
 
Yes, it did, due to all of the relentlessly obsessive propaganda against Disney from ultraconservative hatemongers, which threatened to have a large part of Republican parents cancel their Disney+ subscriptions.

However, the storytelling is still excellent, and very humane and empathetic, in my opinion. 🙏
 
Tonygameman said:
(laughs in a potential Epic Mickey speed/LS buff) Seriously though, Oswald also deserves an actual shot, for what would've been the Sensational Seven.
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Unfortunately, I don’t think this counts. Iirc, I believe this was from an Oswald short made after Universal took direct control and Disney left, so it wouldn’t be canonical to Epic Mickey.
 
That is very likely not canon, but it was still sweet. 🙏🙂
 
Yeah, this doesn't really fit the world of Bluey as it's stated that as far anthropomorphic creatures go only dogs exist, so there'd be a cultural shock that is entirely ignored for the sake of the scene being just a funny nod, the family already knowning Mickey also would raise further questions to say the least.
 
quick question, do we consider the Chip and Dale movie to be part of the main timeline or is it just a Seperate thing?
 
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