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Discussing the Ten Commandments and Meliodas (again).

well lets have a look at it.

the big boulder the entire tournament takes place on is in the center of the maze

http://i1.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/155/nanatsu-no-taizai-6833683.jpg

dol created these two big hands which all participants stand on and which are in the center as well

http://i2.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/171/nanatsu-no-taizai-7406347.jpg

dolor then buried these hands underground

http://i9.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/171/nanatsu-no-taizai-7406437.jpg

leaving only the regular earth

http://i3.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/171/nanatsu-no-taizai-7406443.jpg

-> but its still the center of the maze

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glox first nuke send meliodas out of the maze, as you can see the border parts of the maze in the corner

http://i3.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/172/nanatsu-no-taizai-7449775.jpg

however it doesnt mean they now fight outside the maze - since glox proceeds to heal dolor at the same place (the center) for which he needs some seconds, but meliodas is already on his way back and interrupting

http://i3.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/172/nanatsu-no-taizai-7449793.jpg

http://i9.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/172/nanatsu-no-taizai-7449811.jpg

which leads to dolor attacking and the entire fight prolongin. the biggest we see is mel kicking glox a little away, meaning we are just some dozen meters away from the center, since dolor followed to aid glox

http://i6.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/173/nanatsu-no-taizai-7525471.jpg

http://i8.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/173/nanatsu-no-taizai-7525477.jpg

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when the TC arrived mel tried to escape from the center (take some dozen meters) but got ported back

http://i998.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/174/nanatsu-no-taizai-7554427.jpg

note that dolor hasnt engaged in the fight, he is a big dude and we see him standing during the entire fight. not moving from the center throughout the entire fight

derriere then sends him flying through one wall

http://i997.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/174/nanatsu-no-taizai-7554451.jpg

which also cant be more than a couple dozen meters since monspiet catches him and the following explosion takes place right above dolor

http://i999.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/174/nanatsu-no-taizai-7554457.jpg

http://i996.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/174/nanatsu-no-taizai-7554463.jpg

lastly, gloxinias attack this time was downward directed, where mel stood in the crater from fraudrins milky way attack

http://i996.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/175/nanatsu-no-taizai-7585987.jpg

leaving us with

http://i999.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/175/nanatsu-no-taizai-7585993.jpg

a side view on the explosion which occures at the center of the maze minus some dozen meters

and since we know the radius is 8 miles

http://i1.***********.net/nanatsu-no-taizai/168/nanatsu-no-taizai-7301893.jpg

we can take a look at this feat
 
Does anyone know why Galan's durability in Critical Over is "At least Mountain"? Shouldn't it be "Large Mountain" or am I missing something?
 
I understand, but it wouldn't make sense for his durability to increase to that level especially when it was his physical body that was altered. It also wouldn't make sense especially since he is a melee fighter. May it be upgraded, or no?
 
All right, there are two character profiles that need changed:

Due to the recent chapter: http://readms.com/r/the_seven_deadly_sins/176/3436/1

Ban: he needs his Zero Sign ability added -- it suppresses his presense so that is it harder to notice his presense

Merascylla: her tier should be changed to "probably Low 7-B physically, At least 7-A with black matter" due to Ban (I believe he was in base, not using HF or PH in any manner) snapping her neck and ripping all of her hearts out in an instant.

Also, I no longer require her profile pic to be a burnt steak, It is better off being a pretzel.
 
I am fine with if somebody wants to perform these changes.
 
i would wait one more week to see how things play out with her. i would leave her at unknown until then.

the death flag is waving, but its not yet set in stone
 
Yea i agree to wait a bit but i think it's pretty clear merascylla is dead ban ripped out all 5 of her hearls and gloxina said that he wouldn't be able to heal others for a while, would be surprised if she somehow managed to survive.
 
Base Ban without weapon = Low 7-B.

He ended up snapping her neck and ripping her hearts out with relative ease.
 
True, which is why I ended up listing her as "Likely 7-B" rather than low 7-B, but her physical constitution has been consistently shown as far inferior than someone like Galan's own.
 
Well, she seems to be less physically oriented than the other commandments, but possibly more dangerous, given her greater ability to attack and control people's souls.
 
http://readms.com/r/the_seven_deadly_sins/177/3454/1

Here is the latest chapter.

Merascylla seems to have been confirmed dead, so her physical body stats should probably be left as city, or be downgraded further to small city since Ban easily destroyed her body without a weapon and no HF/PH.

Ban is not capable of doing any harm to Estarossa and he was blasted into pieces with casual effort (so he should stay as "likely 7-A" when using PH and HF and "7-B" in base)

Also, I highly doubt this death in the chapter is going to go through... I mean, we just had a 'death' in Fairy Tail, which is likely going to cancel eachother out and both characters will be alive soon enough (in denial over Meliodas... kinda happy that Gajeel bit the dust).
 
Oh, also, Estarossa has a new ability called "Rebellion" where he summons several blades to use in combat. He has so far shown seven in which he used to impale Meliodas' 7 hearts.

By the way, why is Estarossa still listed as "At least Island"?
 
Well, IMO, he is "at least Island" since he is stronger than an Island level character (Mel)
 
He stopped revenge counter with casual effort, but beyond that, he is featless (other then HF Ban being completely worthless in terms of trying to damage him). Revenge Counter took the sum total of the Ten commandments' attacks. That would not be more than a few dozen gigatons. Stopping it with little effort will still leave him in the lower half of Island level for AP and Durability.

He should be left at Island level until he gains an impressive feat that is without question capable of giving him a higher end Island scaling.
 
Well, Meliodas' revenge counter was presumably greater than all the previous combined attacks from the 10 Commandments, so I am fine with keeping Estarossa at "At least Island level".

I am uncertain whether or not Merascylla should be downgraded. Perhaps "Either Small City level or City level (Was easily killed by Ban, by being taken by surprise)" is the most appropriate?
 
At least Small City would be most appropriate unless Ban's base without weapon is upgraded to City.
 
I don't support "at least island level" since this would seduce people to place him at the upper end of island which is not where he sits at. It's just 2 digit GT. far from 3 digit and miles from 4digit / small country

Estarossa: 6-c without any additions

Merascylla: ap; at least high 7a via dark matter control (power scaling from Meliodas)

Dura: at least low 7b physically / at least high 7a via dark matter control
 
Well, I suppose that "Island level" Estarossa, and "At least Small City level" durability Merascylla might be acceptable.

What do you think Alakabamm?
 
Antvasima said:
Well, I suppose that "Island level" Estarossa, and "At least Small City level" durability Merascylla might be acceptable.
What do you think Alakabamm?
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For Estarossa why not small Country lvl.

I posted in other thread why i think he is small Country lvl.

He block very Easily a Revenge Counter(absorb all Mountain/Island lvl attacks from Commandant and shot this 30x powerfuller to the enemy)

This Revenge Counter was so powerfull even dreyfus was scared and say he lose even more to melodias.
 
You reasoning was rejected by the community Kaptain. It's unreasonable and also wrong (he never shot the attack 30 times more powerful back. It was just 30 times more powerful than the previous revenge counter at the capital, who has no relation to the TC arc at all)
 
Antvasima said:
Well, I suppose that "Island level" Estarossa, and "At least Small City level" durability Merascylla might be acceptable.
What do you think Alakabamm?
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Yea, thats fine
 
@Kaptain

bruh... it was stated to be 30 times stronger than the last revenge counter (vs Hendrickson), which, if we scale based on that, is VERY VERY low compared to the "small country" that you are suggesting.

Estarossa stopped the sum total of a few Dozen Gigatons and any power Meliodas added onto that, which wouldn't do much considering how injured he was and that he is still very low-end Island. Island level Estarossa is all that can be given at this time until he does something a dozen+ times more impressive.

Merascylla = fodder

Fraudrin (Dreyfus) is likely the weakest of the remaining commandments (especially with his feats) so of course he would be terrified of the Revenge counter. It would have only have been him and Merascylla to be killed off by the attack while the rest would be majorly damage (Glox, Dolor, Monspeit, and maybe Graylord) or only suffer some moderate damage (Zeldris and Derrierie).

Revenge Counter was not going to kill more than three of the commandments there.
 
Okay, so does anybody wish to perform the changes to Estarossa's and Merascylla's profiles?
 
Done, and i added "Rebellion" on Estarossa's profile since it is a new ability he has not previously shown.
 
You have forgotten to add / high 7a via her dark matter control on her durability page

Also the dark matter manipulation should give her the same AP like glox. It's stated its comparable to monspiet and galan which are high 7a yet she is just likely mountain level? That's a massive difference
 
How does dark matter control increase her durability?
 
And when was it stated to be comparable to Monspiet and Galan?
 
she took the point blank shockwave from galan without even flinching. galan in that state was rated at high 7a

http://a.*************/store/manga/11925/149.0/compressed/i014.jpg?v=1447060931

http://a.*************/store/manga/11925/149.0/compressed/i015.jpg?v=1447060931
 
Okay then. I will fix it.
 
She was in the vicinity, but didn't take a direct hit--obviously. I don't think that should give her a High 7-A rating, but At least 7-A is arguable. She was never depicted as being particularly strong and a "Likely 7-A" Ban was able to send her several meters with a blow to her black matter.
 
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