Dio vs Lavos

[TriforcePower1]

So, I've just finished Chrono Trigger, so I've been wanting to do a match with Lavos as he's the only well kept profile of the series as well as the haxiest, but as you can easily imagine, finding a character that can bypass Lavos's acausality in his 5-A form (the one that actually appears in Chrono Trigger) is pretty hard.

That's when I had the revelation and remembered that Heaven Ascension Dio has a pretty explicit feat of erasing the versions of a character across infinite universes, which is basically what Lavos's acausality is based from. Now the problem is if he can also get past Lavos's wall of hax.

After this rant about the background of the match, let's start.

Heaven Ascension DIO vs Lavos

Lavos is in his 5-A form

HAD is bloodlusted and speed is equalized

God:

Big Fire:

Janitor:


Dio

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I think lavos stomps but I'm not sure.

 

[Schnee_One]

Lavos completely Stomps.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Even if HAD is bloodlusted?

Timestop+Reality Overwrite could work?

 

[Schnee_One]

RO being applicable in combat has been debunked for a long time

 

[TriforcePower1]

?

He just needs to touch Lavos with The World

 

[Paul_Frank]

No one has ever said ro isn't combat applicable though

The only thing that happened is it became a range thing instead of ap

 

[Schnee_One]

Also time Stop isn't doing much against a dude who is beyond time.

Which kinda makes me wonder why time Stop resistance isn't on the file

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/979397?useskin=oasis

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Stomp.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Yeah lavos stomps but how is RO not combat applicable when Dio literally uses it in combat the entire fight

 

[Schnee_One]

I actually misread it and I was wrong

My fault.

Anyway, Dio needs to run 4KM and punch something before getting haxed to death in a speed equal match, and that's not going to happen

Any reason not to nuke?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Ehmm, timestop? 5-A Lavos isn't beyond time to my knowledge

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Super deleto.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Well it's not really a stomp since Dio could erase every lavos but if Lavos resists time stop that's difficult

 

[Schnee_One]

Ehmm, timestop? 5-A Lavos isn't beyond time to my knowledge

Read the thread.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Well, Dio can stop infinites, so that's something.

Hopefully

 

[Schnee_One]

^That has been debunked as game mechanics

That I know

 

[Paul_Frank]

I forgot about that

 

[TriforcePower1]

No, that's something he still has. As long as GER keeps his infinite speed ratings, HAD will keep his time stop that timestops infinites.

Also, it happened in a cutscene. EDIT: no, it didn't, I mistook his RO for his timestop

 

[Schnee_One]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2494769?useskin=oasis

^Me bringing that up

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Ah yeah when Bill had time stop resistance which I later debunked.

 

[Schnee_One]

It wasn't the resistance I was referring to as much as it was the whole time stopping infinite thing

Even then I honestly find the feat that Fate brought up of Lavos resisting significantly more impressive.

Anything else?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

RO being applicable in combat has been debunked for a long time

Since ******* when?

 

[TriforcePower1]

That wasn't really debunking, just a couple of people saying they disagreed. AFAIK, no one made a thread to remove it.

 

[Schnee_One]

I actually misread it and I was wrong

My fault

1. Calm down

2. Read the thread in full

3. My bad.

 

[TriforcePower1]

It wasn't the resistance I was referring to as much as it was the whole time stopping infinite thing

Even then I honestly find the feat that Fate brought up of Lavos resisting significantly more impressive.

Anything else?

Which feat?

 

[Schnee_One]

"Kars tries to stop time, realizes his opponent exists outside of its flow and recquired a Universal+ literal condensed universe capable of reality warping on the same scale and also powered even more by his own power stored in the pendant to actually be time freezed for like one minute, give or take (enough for the party to recover Crono and get the hell out of there)."

 

[Schnee_One]

That wasn't really debunking, just a couple of people saying they disagreed. AFAIK, no one made a thread to remove it.

Where is it stared he can exactly?

It states he can stop time

 

[Genericstickman]

Bloodlusted HAD mind haxes or soul haxes (unless Lavos actually resists it and I'm looking at the wrong tab)

 

[Schnee_One]

They don't have the range to affect the other Lavos

 

[TriforcePower1]

"Kars tries to stop time, realizes his opponent exists outside of its flow and recquired a Universal+ literal condensed universe capable of reality warping on the same scale and also powered even more by his own power stored in the pendant to actually be time freezed for like one minute, give or take (enough for the party to recover Crono and get the hell out of there)."

Oh, that? Lavos never actually resisted it https://youtu.be/4RvLZe1nlLU

 

[Genericstickman]

They don't have the range to affect the other Lavos

Multiversal+ with teleportation, soul manipulation and Absorption, BFR, time stop and reality overwrite (Can rewrite anything within any timeline.)

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah, he killed Funny Valentine with Reality Overwrite, who basically has the exact same acausality as Lavos.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Dio gets passively molecularized via approaching Lavos and his passive field.

 

[The_Smashor]

DIO: Oh, I'm approaching yo-dies

 

[TriforcePower1]

>Lavos has a passive field

Either Chrono Cross made Lavos even more OP than when he was in CT, or you're referring to Rain of Destruction from the Heavens, which isn't passive

He also doesn't have aura on his page.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Lavos shitstomps.

HAD never timestops infinite speed being out side of gameplay. Hell, I never see him starts with timestop during the cutscenes.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Anyway, yeah, Lavos stomps

 

[TriforcePower1]

That's why I bloodlusted him

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Lavos shitstomps.
HAD never timestops infinite speed being out side of gameplay. Hell, I never see him starts with timestop during the cutscenes.

I agree with the first part, but the second part is wrong. He has time stopped GER in cutscenes before.