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Novel Kars vs Lavos

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5-A key still has a shit ton of hax.

Only thing that scares me is his BFR to nonexistence though unless i missed something, that's the big thing.

Honestly i could maybe see an inconclusive but Lavos is haxed as hell, which is why im wondering why ya did speed equal and took away Kars only actual advantage.
 
Let me break this down.

1. Kars physical stats are on Country Level+ range. 'k, cool. Good luck with Large Planet Level stuff raining down across the whole planet which can and will oneshot, plus he has not enough regen to recover from. This is just the start.

2. Kars tries to leave to another universe, Multi-Universal Range says hi.

3. Kars tries to stop time, realizes his opponent exists outside of its flow and recquired a Universal+ literal condensed universe capable of reality warping on the same scale and also powered even more by his own power stored in the pendant to actually be time freezed for like one minute, give or take (enough for the party to recover Crono and get the hell out of there).
 
At best Kars gets sent to whatever time era as soon as this starts. At worst he gets sent to the DBT or just killed by whatever.
 
Kars' only way to put him down is either D4C, Killer Queen transmutation or Whitresnake removing discs (powers, mind, soul, etc), or destroying the universe with MIH.

Something tells me he resists those though.
 
Like I said, if he tries to use D4C he's still within Lavos Multi-Universal range and gets oneshotted, taken by some gate or whatever AOE hax he feels like using.

Killer Queen won't matter for alternates coming through gates and Lavos wouldn't stand there thinking about the wrong deeds of his life while Kars uses this either.

I honestly don't see how Kars is using White Snake before being murderized either when his opponent has like... A ridiculous array of hax that can oneshot (and same goes for physical attacks such as destruction rains from the heavens).

I don't see any Time Travel on Kars profile so you'll have to elaborate on that and even if he had it wouldn't matter if he gets BFR'd to the DBT either way.
 
Hell, if Lavos uses something as simple as TK to crush Kars completely then obliterate him with whatever attack or Telepathy to shut down his mind followed by some other attack he wins since he doesn't have a Counter to this on Large Planet Scale.
 
Finally, Made in Heaven doesn't matter either because Chrono Cross confirms Lavos can cross to alternate dimensions/universes via Gates so he would just get out before the thing goes down as even from another Universe Kars is within range.
 
Kars doesn't have time travel on his profile, there's a CRT up for it though and it's been agreed upon.

It's simple time travel via The World.

Kars could use Whitesnake and the like, if speed wasn't equal.

Maybe BTD would work for getting him out of BFR, it sends him to where he was an hour previously, he even used it to get out of BFR once before.

Crushing Kars' body wont do much, he can survive as a disembodied soul. Also, would Kars not be able to body hop like Funny with D4C?
 
Fair enough on the travel part.

DBT recquires at least Multiversal+ Teleportation to get out of plus some ridiculous Macguffin levels in-verse. And it's non-existence. Not only you are erased as soon as you get there (which would take care of Kars as he has no Mid-Godly), even if you survive you're stuck there. It's beyond all the infinite timelines of space-time so whatever time-related stuff is moot.

Unequalizing speed when he is either MFTL or Infinite in speed makes this one ridiculous blitz if I've ever seen one.

You do know everyone and their mother in CT - fodder included, as long as they have magic - can damage and destroy Souls, right? Lavos is worse on this as he can absorb and his absorption feats cap at 2-A (though being fair on this, this one is base so it's Large Planet Level absorption either way), so yeah, good luck there.

Again, that's assuming he'll even get the chance to do so against an enemy who outclasses him in everything and can oneshot with literally anything. Taking PIS out of the way, Lavos could even choose to go to whatever Era and hit Kars from there and Kars won't be able to do jack to retaliate as he won't magically know where Lavos is while Lavos displayed the power to know where things are in Timelines.
 
>2-A

Isn't that why we're using 5-A Lavos?

Also him having soul resist is fine, but does he have resistance to literally have his powers removed in that key?

Actually Kars doesn't need to know really, at the end of the novel he was gonna quickly go through 10 quadrillion years worth of time to find a Dio who fled to a different time. He ended up getting intell though and found Dio a universe's amount of time in quick succesion.

As for the speed thing, i mean ya said it yourself, Lavos outclasses, the one thing Kars has is nulled.
 
Lavos is 5-A, the scale of the absorption hax caps at 2-A (his highest feats with it), buuuuuuuuut if you read my edit (before you posted, but I got ninja'd) I said to use the Large Planet Level scale either way as this is base and I forgot it for a sec... Which still horribly outclasses Kars.

White Snake Ultimate's Range is literally 20 meters and he has to actually make physical contact for that. Lavos murderizes Kars a thousand times over before he has a chance to actually make any physical contact and pull that on him. Why would Lavos literally stand there when Kars has a ridiculously Low Range by comparison? Doesn't help that SBA puts them at 4 KM away from each other from the start. Kars can make up for this on the start.

White Snake ability can't. He gets oneshotted.

Again, even if he can go searching to get after Lavos, he will be within his range the whole time while he won't know where the attack is coming from. he gets oneshotted by some AOE attack.

Speed Unequalized: Relativistic vs MFTL/Infinite speed? This is a mismatch either way. Equalized Lavos stomps, unequalized Kars blitzes.
 
Actually even if Kars does approach him by some miracle he'll just realized he dun goofed as that results in him gets absorbed by absorption far higher in scale than what he can deal with.
 
Eh fair enough.

Pretty sure he has a void resistance via scaling off Novel GER but I'm not downloading a pdf of the novel while I'm on the phone so I'll concede.
 
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