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Introduction:
In response to the notion that DIO has regained all of his vampiric abilities during the events of Stardust Crusaders, once he drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, there's an indication why it's logically fallacious and strictly inaccurate to postulate DIO's capacity to access every single ability he has previously demonstrated. Naturally, inductive reasoning has been criticized for generalizing about the properties of a class of objects based on some number of observations of particular instances of that class or presupposing that a sequence of events in the future will occur as it always has in the past. Karl Popper, a philosopher of science, sought to solve the problem of induction. Knowledge is created by conjecture and criticism which the main role of observations and experiments in science, he argued, is in attempts to criticize and refute existing theories.Henceforth, the misconception of DIO regaining all of his undead assets shall be critically evaluated.
Arguments:
"Notes: It is a common misconception that DIO has lost all of his vampire abilities since his Phantom Blood incarnation. This is only partly true. While certain attacks such as his Vaporizing Freeze have been stated to stem from complete control of his body (which he did not have for the majority of Stardust Crusaders), there is nothing implying that he cannot use his Space Ripper Stingy Eyes or other moves he had previously demonstrated. However, using this line of logic, once DIO had drained the blood of Joseph, he himself had stated that his body was the strongest it has ever been, logically implying he once again has access to every single ability he has ever demonstrated." and (Thread:1957744)
Part 1: Shifting of the Burden of Proof
Per the traditional aphorism, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." The Argument from ignorance asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. Seemingly, "there is nothing implying that he cannot use his Space Ripper Stingy Eyes or other moves he had previously demonstrated", although there is nothing implying that he ca use his previously demonstrated abilities either (within the course of Part 3). Positive evidence of this kind is distinct from a lack of evidence or ignorance of that which should have been found already, had it existed. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third optio, which is that there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four,
Part 2: Quoting Out of Context (Ambiguity and Equivocation)
To quote out of context is to remove a passage from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its meaning. The context in which a passage occurs always contributes to its meaning, and the shorter the passage the larger the contribution. The fallacy of quoting out of context is committed when a contextomy is offered as evidence in an argument:
Part 3: DIO's Wound and The World
In 1983, DIO resurfaces one century later in Part III: Stardust Crusaders, managing to become accustomed to Jonathan's body while awaking the ability to use a Stand. Unlike every other Stand User, DIO has sought to improve his Stand's capabilities. He notably wanted to drain the blood of a Joestar and sync himself with Jonathan's body to further improve his time stop ability. Nonetheless, once he drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, DIO still had the potential to enhance his time stopping capabilities. Because of his immortality, the duration of stopped time increases as DIO becomes more accustomed to The World (1, 2) and the scar around his neck heals (1, 2), reaching a maximum of nine seconds towards the end of Part 3. However, had he not died, the period during for which DIO could have stopped time would have continued to grow and he would've grown more accustomed to his body and his stand. The context of the scene between DIO and Hol Horse is that DIO "haven't completely adjusted to his body," and not because his "body was weaker than before".
Part 4: Jonathan's Body (Fire and Ice)
Becoming a Vampire as a young adult, Dio displays a broad range of intriguing, supernatural abilities; explained as expressions of the full, unbound potential of the human body. Nevertheless, in polar opposition to the energy exerted by Vampires, Zombies and the Pillar Men, Hamon is an energy manifesting as ripples throughout the user's body and is identical to the energy of the Su. As the two sources of power are opposites of each other, this debilitates DIO from using such techniques, like his Freezing ability, being that Jonathan's body still has hamon in his blood. Significantly, due to how both Straizo (a vampire) and Dire (decapitated) are capable of producing Hamon despite their current condition as energy is created in their bloodstream. Although, DIO's vitality is maintained by consuming human beings (or their blood) as his is body sustained by sheer willpower alone, rather than vital energy.A sufficiently powerful force of vitality - specifically sunlight or the Ripple - will negate the sustaining force's presence and disintegrate the long-unliving body. Once DIO drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, he has further hindered his own bodily control due to how Joseph Joestar is occupying Hamon in his blood (negating his Vaporization Freezing Technique). To further elaborate, DIO's semi-precognitive abilities that seemed to have resulted from a Hermit Purple-like Stand awoke in the body of Jonathan Joestar.
Essentially, Jonathan's undead body still has Hamon in his bloodstream since DIO possesses a Hermit Purple-like Stand (Jonathan's Stand) and how he drained the blood of a Hamon User to further assimilate with Jonathan's body - DIO cannot conduct neither Fire nor Ice.
Part 5: Hasty Generalization Fallacy (The Problem of Induction)
A faulty generalizatio is a conclusion about all or many instances of a phenomenon that has been reached on the basis of just one or just a few instances of that phenomenon. It is an example of jumping to conclusions. For example, we may generalize about all people, or all members of a group, based on what we know about just one or just a few people:
This also goes by a False Dichotomy due to "either DOES have vampire abilities or he DOESN'T. He is a vampire or he isn't." This is not cherry picking as DIO hasn't barely demonstrated all of his vampiric abilities within the course of Part 3.
Scaling from Straizo: (Speed-wise)
It's a hasty generalizatio to scale Dio with Straizo as Dio's Regenerationn speed does not match Straizo in the slightest. Just because they're vampires does not mean that they represent vampirism as a whole (JoJo-wise). Straizo is capable of pulling himself together from being blown to several pieces by Joseph's hand grenades at a quick pace without the need of having to drain the blood of a person first (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Despite Dio's Regenerationn speed, he is significantly weakened/burnt after his first encounter with Jonathan (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ) and still bears a scar during his next encounter. Straizo's Regenerationn speed is notably much quicker and more efficient whereas Dio requires blood to regenerate accordingly (1, 2). He elaborates on how "if the pillar had not collapsed and broken the statue..." he could have potentially died. Although, this may only imply to his Part I: Phantom Blood incarnation while DIO from Part III: Stardust Crusaders, once he drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, Regenerationn facilitated without the need for blood. Theoretically, this may be the result of Jonathan's undead body still having Hamon in his bloodstream (similar to Straizo) and how he drained the blood of a Hamon User which further enhances his healing process (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).
Conclusion:
The justification of DIO retaining his Phantom Blood abilities is entirely fallacious. Logical fallacies and a variety of inaccuracies are committed which would be redundant if the only line of reasoning is "It was never stated that DIO had lost his vampiric abilities!"
TL
R - I don't agree he has access to every single ability due to faulty reasoning. The only instance DIO used his SRS eyes was in the video game Adaptation (which is non-canon).
Edit: This has nothing to do with his High-Mid Regenerationn. Just its speed. This was only re-uploaded due to some misconception which ended with a red-herring.
Thread:2043479
In response to the notion that DIO has regained all of his vampiric abilities during the events of Stardust Crusaders, once he drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, there's an indication why it's logically fallacious and strictly inaccurate to postulate DIO's capacity to access every single ability he has previously demonstrated. Naturally, inductive reasoning has been criticized for generalizing about the properties of a class of objects based on some number of observations of particular instances of that class or presupposing that a sequence of events in the future will occur as it always has in the past. Karl Popper, a philosopher of science, sought to solve the problem of induction. Knowledge is created by conjecture and criticism which the main role of observations and experiments in science, he argued, is in attempts to criticize and refute existing theories.Henceforth, the misconception of DIO regaining all of his undead assets shall be critically evaluated.
Arguments:
"Notes: It is a common misconception that DIO has lost all of his vampire abilities since his Phantom Blood incarnation. This is only partly true. While certain attacks such as his Vaporizing Freeze have been stated to stem from complete control of his body (which he did not have for the majority of Stardust Crusaders), there is nothing implying that he cannot use his Space Ripper Stingy Eyes or other moves he had previously demonstrated. However, using this line of logic, once DIO had drained the blood of Joseph, he himself had stated that his body was the strongest it has ever been, logically implying he once again has access to every single ability he has ever demonstrated." and (Thread:1957744)
Part 1: Shifting of the Burden of Proof
Per the traditional aphorism, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." The Argument from ignorance asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. Seemingly, "there is nothing implying that he cannot use his Space Ripper Stingy Eyes or other moves he had previously demonstrated", although there is nothing implying that he ca use his previously demonstrated abilities either (within the course of Part 3). Positive evidence of this kind is distinct from a lack of evidence or ignorance of that which should have been found already, had it existed. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third optio, which is that there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four,
- true
- false
- unknown between true or false
- being unknowable (among the first three).
Part 2: Quoting Out of Context (Ambiguity and Equivocation)
To quote out of context is to remove a passage from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its meaning. The context in which a passage occurs always contributes to its meaning, and the shorter the passage the larger the contribution. The fallacy of quoting out of context is committed when a contextomy is offered as evidence in an argument:
- "I am unaware of where this misconception comes from, though I do have a guess. I believe some people take his interaction with Hol Horse as some sort of proof that he is physically weaker. While yes, DIO did admit that his body was weaker than before, there is nothing to suggest that being weaker prevents him from using his vampire abilities. Furthermore, DIO himself states that once he drained Joseph's blood, his body has been the strongest it has ever been. If we take the previous logic as true, that being weak somehow prevents him from using vampire abilities, then we almost must take the reverse true, that being stronger than ever before allows him to use his vampire abilities."
Part 3: DIO's Wound and The World
In 1983, DIO resurfaces one century later in Part III: Stardust Crusaders, managing to become accustomed to Jonathan's body while awaking the ability to use a Stand. Unlike every other Stand User, DIO has sought to improve his Stand's capabilities. He notably wanted to drain the blood of a Joestar and sync himself with Jonathan's body to further improve his time stop ability. Nonetheless, once he drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, DIO still had the potential to enhance his time stopping capabilities. Because of his immortality, the duration of stopped time increases as DIO becomes more accustomed to The World (1, 2) and the scar around his neck heals (1, 2), reaching a maximum of nine seconds towards the end of Part 3. However, had he not died, the period during for which DIO could have stopped time would have continued to grow and he would've grown more accustomed to his body and his stand. The context of the scene between DIO and Hol Horse is that DIO "haven't completely adjusted to his body," and not because his "body was weaker than before".
Part 4: Jonathan's Body (Fire and Ice)
Becoming a Vampire as a young adult, Dio displays a broad range of intriguing, supernatural abilities; explained as expressions of the full, unbound potential of the human body. Nevertheless, in polar opposition to the energy exerted by Vampires, Zombies and the Pillar Men, Hamon is an energy manifesting as ripples throughout the user's body and is identical to the energy of the Su. As the two sources of power are opposites of each other, this debilitates DIO from using such techniques, like his Freezing ability, being that Jonathan's body still has hamon in his blood. Significantly, due to how both Straizo (a vampire) and Dire (decapitated) are capable of producing Hamon despite their current condition as energy is created in their bloodstream. Although, DIO's vitality is maintained by consuming human beings (or their blood) as his is body sustained by sheer willpower alone, rather than vital energy.A sufficiently powerful force of vitality - specifically sunlight or the Ripple - will negate the sustaining force's presence and disintegrate the long-unliving body. Once DIO drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, he has further hindered his own bodily control due to how Joseph Joestar is occupying Hamon in his blood (negating his Vaporization Freezing Technique). To further elaborate, DIO's semi-precognitive abilities that seemed to have resulted from a Hermit Purple-like Stand awoke in the body of Jonathan Joestar.
- "He's able to use a similar clairvoyance as Joseph because his body is Jonathan's from the neck dow." —JOJO A-GO! GO! Stand Dictionary p.33
Essentially, Jonathan's undead body still has Hamon in his bloodstream since DIO possesses a Hermit Purple-like Stand (Jonathan's Stand) and how he drained the blood of a Hamon User to further assimilate with Jonathan's body - DIO cannot conduct neither Fire nor Ice.
Part 5: Hasty Generalization Fallacy (The Problem of Induction)
A faulty generalizatio is a conclusion about all or many instances of a phenomenon that has been reached on the basis of just one or just a few instances of that phenomenon. It is an example of jumping to conclusions. For example, we may generalize about all people, or all members of a group, based on what we know about just one or just a few people:
- "Fuurthermore, DIO actually DOES use his vampire abilities, several times actually. He uses his super-hearing to see if Jotaro's heart is beating from a distance.He uses his vampiric Regenerationn to recover from shattered legs in mere seconds. He creates biological flesh buds to brainwash his opponents. People just don't see him use his "exciting" abilities and therefore he doesn't have it? Its just cherry picking at this point, he either DOES have vampire abilities or he DOESN'T. He is a vampire or he isn't."
This also goes by a False Dichotomy due to "either DOES have vampire abilities or he DOESN'T. He is a vampire or he isn't." This is not cherry picking as DIO hasn't barely demonstrated all of his vampiric abilities within the course of Part 3.
Scaling from Straizo: (Speed-wise)
It's a hasty generalizatio to scale Dio with Straizo as Dio's Regenerationn speed does not match Straizo in the slightest. Just because they're vampires does not mean that they represent vampirism as a whole (JoJo-wise). Straizo is capable of pulling himself together from being blown to several pieces by Joseph's hand grenades at a quick pace without the need of having to drain the blood of a person first (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Despite Dio's Regenerationn speed, he is significantly weakened/burnt after his first encounter with Jonathan (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ) and still bears a scar during his next encounter. Straizo's Regenerationn speed is notably much quicker and more efficient whereas Dio requires blood to regenerate accordingly (1, 2). He elaborates on how "if the pillar had not collapsed and broken the statue..." he could have potentially died. Although, this may only imply to his Part I: Phantom Blood incarnation while DIO from Part III: Stardust Crusaders, once he drained the blood of Joseph Joestar, Regenerationn facilitated without the need for blood. Theoretically, this may be the result of Jonathan's undead body still having Hamon in his bloodstream (similar to Straizo) and how he drained the blood of a Hamon User which further enhances his healing process (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).
Conclusion:
The justification of DIO retaining his Phantom Blood abilities is entirely fallacious. Logical fallacies and a variety of inaccuracies are committed which would be redundant if the only line of reasoning is "It was never stated that DIO had lost his vampiric abilities!"
TL
R - I don't agree he has access to every single ability due to faulty reasoning. The only instance DIO used his SRS eyes was in the video game Adaptation (which is non-canon). Edit: This has nothing to do with his High-Mid Regenerationn. Just its speed. This was only re-uploaded due to some misconception which ended with a red-herring.
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