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Dunno if this was already discussed, just curious.
Definitely not tryna revise anything tho so don't freak out.
Definitely not tryna revise anything tho so don't freak out.
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Didn't Supreme Kai state that Vegito surpassed Beerus?
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And wasn't that statement manga only?
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Manga's canon.
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It was only in the manga.
But in the manga they're not low 2-C, infinite zamasu doesn't exist.
But in the manga they're not low 2-C, infinite zamasu doesn't exist.
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No Ant, Toriyama instructions does not count since the manga is not canon because Infinite Zamasu and parts of several arcs are very different for the Anime, Beerus lost the arm match with Belmond in the anime, while in the manga it's Quitela.
Lastly the manga Mastered Super Saiyan Blue Form does not exist in the Anime, and Anime Merged Zamasu is supposed to weaker than his Infinite Form.
Lastly the manga Mastered Super Saiyan Blue Form does not exist in the Anime, and Anime Merged Zamasu is supposed to weaker than his Infinite Form.
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The manga is canon, refusing that is pointless, it does however, follow a different story than the anime. Ssb vegito being comparable to beerus was talked about in two sources, the manga and during an interview with toyotaro. However, supreme kai was only wondering if ssb vegito was stronger, he never said he was stronger outright. Whether people want to take the manga into consideration is up to them.
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It is canon, to itself. Not toei's version, which takes priority.
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I mean he was kicking their ass dude.
Also don't link either, like at all, ya cant cherry pick like that.
Also don't link either, like at all, ya cant cherry pick like that.
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No, the powerscaling is also different in the manga: In the manga Hit was weaker than Super Saiyan God Goku and Fusion Zamasu was easily pierced by an attack from SSB Goku, while in the anime it's unable to damage him, also there is the Mastered SSB Form. Anime Vegito, Fusion Zamasu and Spirit Bomb Trunks will be not Low 2-C.
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I still think its ridiculous that Vegito, Fusion Zamasu, and SoH Trunks aren't getting upgraded.I have a REALLY hard time believing that not only are they infinetly inferior to people like Beerus, but also infinitely inferior to freaking Sidra. Especially so with Vegito and Zamasu. I know there's not much evidence that they are on the GoD tier (besides Fusion Zamasu saying he and Vegetto were above even gods, which I havent seen discussed at all), but still. Heck even Hit should really have an upgrade due to temporarily holding off a low 2-C character.
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Got a scan of that?
Also Zamasu is infinitely weaker than infinite zamasu, which is where the low 2-C cones from. Ya can't scale like that.
Also Zamasu is infinitely weaker than infinite zamasu, which is where the low 2-C cones from. Ya can't scale like that.
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Well he did punch Jiren hard enough to send him flying.
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Again, that was an attack that used time to ignore durability. Did no one else find it impressive that Jiren went from being affected by the time skip at the beginning of the episode to having a great resistance to time manipulation by the end of the episode? Keep in mind, this episode lasted like a minute, seeing as there was 25 minutes left after Goku was defeated and 24 left when the episode ended.
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Jiren wasn't effected at all, he litterally punched the time dimension and broke on Hit's 3rd try.
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But he didn't begin to resist it until the third time, and Hit's immobilising technique still worked on him at the end until he glared at it.
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Hit does not scale to Jiren, since he had to do dura negation attacks to do something to him. About Sidra, he made that sphere of destruction with a very slighty amount of energy [He did not said i put all of my energy in this sphere], which was manipulated by Golden Frieza. When Frieza and Toppo were chosen to be God of Destruction, it was mainly because they would have done a far better work/job than Sidra.
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