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Devil May Cry speed downgrades
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Is Sub-Relativistic thing staying?
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@Ant Speed gets downgraded, AP stays the same
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I still think DMC4 and DMC2 Dante should scale, with the former being "At least Massively Hypersonic+, likely/possibly Sub-Relativistic" and the latter being "At least Sub-Relativistic".
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We would need to prove DMC2 dante scales though
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Him being massively above Abigail and the fact that his DMC3 incarnation can dodge lightning at point-blank range should be enough IMO. But if it's not, then a "possibly" might be added to DMC2 key as well.
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That's not enough to prove he scales to abigails sub rela lightning
Nor is dodging lightning point blank.
Nor is dodging lightning point blank.
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Nevermind then.
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This kinda died
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Bump
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Someone can apply this
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You do it 
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I think it should be at least massively hypersonic+ likely higher as the god tiers are far above nevan and dmc 3 Dante
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I agree with Sparda, "likely higher" should be fine to add, as the god-tiers are astronomically above the MHS+ feats.
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Ok who wants to make the changes?
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Dark649 was applying them, last time I checked.
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Apparently it was already applied to DMC2 Dante.
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Ok I'll ask dark about the rest
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Are there any other speed feats to scale to the higher tiers?
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There was a FTL calc, but it got rejected, because well, outlier.
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I don't understand why it would be a outlier as there is nothing that contradicts it
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I don't really think that is the only problem, as it's a part of The Perpetual's calc, which assumed Mundus created a pocket dimension, which I still think is a better estimation than just teleportation (even the wiki agrees with that).
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Because creating a dimension isn't a speed feat
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Oh that ok never mind thought you meant a new calc that was ftlRebubleUselet said:
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Actually, the lowest-end, that was 4.97c, didn't come from the dimension creation, but the speed at which Dante & Mundus were, presumably, flying. But again, the whole thing is questionable, so I'm not really sure about using this myself.
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Yeah it had something to do with the stars being real or not
If the guide book just said mundus created the dimension we would have 4-A ftl dmc right now
If the guide book just said mundus created the dimension we would have 4-A ftl dmc right now
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I think everyone who is high hypersonic should be at least the feat was how fast rebellion was moving and Dante was able to move faster than it
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Actually, why they are MHS+ only in Combat and Reactions ? (For DMC3 and DMC1 cast)
Nevan Lightning attacks had a good range, avoid them at point blank range it's also a movement speed feat, doesn't ?
Nevan Lightning attacks had a good range, avoid them at point blank range it's also a movement speed feat, doesn't ?
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Dante can only really avoid it Point blank if he uses royal guard iirc.Dante Demon Killah said:
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It is possible to avoid with Trickster, I think
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Not after it fires iirc
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Well. we don't really know how Dante kept up with the lightning, and High Hypersonic feat may as well be just a low-end.
I am generally neutral on DMC chars being flat out MHS+ though.
I am generally neutral on DMC chars being flat out MHS+ though.
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Meh, I guess "At least High Hypersonic with Massively Hypersonic+ Combat Speed and Reactions" it's already fine
Even the person who did the calc said that should be "At least"
Even the person who did the calc said that should be "At least"
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That is not the definition of an outlier. An outlier is a result that is far off from the normal body of data. No basic definition of outlier has the caveat of requiring a contradiction. If that's some Vsbattles unique version of it go nuts but so far as the base term and its use in statistics no- all you need is a general set of results that form a distinct area of results and one result that is far out of the normal range.Gargoyle One said:
A character having dozens of supersonic showings and then only one or two relativistic ones for example has two outliers, repeated or not, the relativistic showings do not fall within the normal group of results.
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