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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread

Mister6ame6 said:
They are getting their stuff back (We already started some of them actualy) especially the immesurable speed and Low 1-C ratings but is gonna take a while before every becomes complete.

She cannot kill Dante and demons overall (As far a know Bayo verse can't deal with High-Goldly Regen and High-Goldly Ressurrection, so correct me if i'm wrong on this) and DMC have more accepted layers of haxs atm (Very outdated but is higher them 20+ layers for everithing rn)
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Thx for at least telling me how and why and it wasnt so long either and hard either

Curious how are those ratings gonna be a thing after all arguments on it were denied in threads by staff though
 
I knew it would be hard but don't worry, that's why papa Tony is here, to teach you!

That's what I would have said but, just read the damn pages. Half of the stuff Dante has is passive and, like the best guy the DMC fandom has seen in decades said above us, he has over 20 layers for everything. The second Dante decides to not hold back (which considering the stat gap, is gonna happen instantly) Bayonetta gets hit with at least 5 to 10 different abilities that insta kill her.

Though, the regen and ress part is mid-godly, High-Godly would be over time and a really long time at that.
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Thx for at least telling me how and why and it wasnt so long either and hard either

Curious how are those ratings gonna be a thing after all arguments on it were denied in threads by staff though
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NP

DMC being even 2-A got rejected a few times in the past, but here we are now, we have more ways a DMC member never give up their dreams
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
I knew it would be hard but don't worry, that's why papa Tony is here, to teach you!

That's what I would have said but, just read the damn pages. Half of the stuff Dante has is passive and, like the best guy the DMC fandom has seen in decades said above us, he has over 20 layers for everything. The second Dante decides to not hold back (which considering the stat gap, is gonna happen instantly) Bayonetta gets hit with at least 5 to 10 different abilities that insta kill her.
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And yeah i forgot to mention the passives. Is also missing a bunch of passives too, so Dante can easely get more them 10 passives in the future making this even more unfair.
Tony_di_bugalu said:
Though, the regen and ress part is mid-godly, High-Godly would be over time and a really long time at that.
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Fair points but should be istantly on DT since DMC5 mentions that Dante regen in a flash

Plus Vergil kinda got his body, name and even soul removed from Mundus and rejected the Nelo name until he was able to subdue him with the amulet, so even if he cannot regen istantly on human form, they still can funcion whitheout any of his parts so that won't be a problem here!
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
How about you explain it instead of acting like a f*cking smartass over others why would Dante win from their profiles
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That's just Tony for you (believe me I've been dealing with his nonsense for a long time wink wink). But regardless, I can see Bayonetta mooping the floor with Dante but idk how can she ignore the passives around him via DE which are layered to hell and back...

Unless she decides to blast his ass away from a distance then that's kinda understandable. However, I should remind you that Dante in his SDT state (assuming he starts with it) does have passive time stop which she don't have any answer to as far as I remember soo I suppose you can say that all possible projectiles from afar wouldn't reach him whatsoever but then again, not available on the wiki atm.

Considering all this, I suppose it depends on how far the passives extends to and where they start from?
 
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Mister6ame6 said:
Very outdated but is higher them 20+ layers for everithing rn)
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Tony_di_bugalu said:
he has over 20 layers for everything.
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I forgot, what's the argument for this? Is it that every time he gets stronger = layered hax or something? (or maybe I'm confusing it with Castlevania)


Tony_di_bugalu said:
Though, the regen and ress part is mid-godly, High-Godly would be over time and a really long time at that.
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Given the nature of the soul in DMC I think that the mid-godly regen are actually high godly in this verse
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
I forgot, what's the argument for this? Is it that every time he gets stronger = layered hax or something? (or maybe I'm confusing it with Castlevania)



Given the nature of the soul in DMC I think that the mid-godly regen are actually high godly in this verse
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Am I allowed to directly change regeneration there since it's a direct result of my metaphysical revision even though I didn't specified it?
 
SuperSonicTL said:
Am I allowed to directly change regeneration there since it's a direct result of my metaphysical revision even though I didn't specified it?
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If the accepted regen feats are not outdated and/or controversial, I think so (but I'm not a staff member so maybe check it out with them directly).
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
Wait really?
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DT was suggesting to remove it as a whole in order to factor in the nuances regarding how good the layers are and directly compare feats rather then numbers. This is the thread:
vsbattles.com

It's that time we discussed layering and qualitative superiority

Persmission to post this from @Damage3245 I'm sure everyone is familiar with the concept, but here we go: Now that we are done with explaining, let's get to the point of this CRT. This is the current definition of layering: What are the problems with it? First, it is very vague at some...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
 
Huesito88 said:
No gacha expert is that a good thing or not?
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Bad...? Or good...?

I only know it means they have a "stable" player base willing to drop a couple thousands in their game which means they are making money. I'm pretty sure their goal was something along the lines of Honkai/Genshin with their retardded gameplay system instead of the DMC one they had as it promotes more p2w stuff
 
They keep doing that, attempting to turn DMC into something else hoping it'll make bigger money, and typically it makes less as a result.
 
It's like they saw the mistake it was to change DMC with the reboot to a less DMC-like game and thought "hey maybe if we take the whole DMC gameplay out then it will sell better!"

ngl I blame whoever decided to scrap out the 1.0 version which is the one Itsuno was involved with
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
It's like they saw the mistake it was to change DMC with the reboot to a less DMC-like game and thought "hey maybe if we take the whole DMC gameplay out then it will sell better!"

ngl I blame whoever decided to scrap out the 1.0 version which is the one Itsuno was involved with
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Itsuno clearly ****** up there
 
Random-Helper323 said:
He was involved in the reboot and he tried to get rid of Dante in DMC4. Then he tried to resume the reboot and scrap the real series. If he'd gotten his way on any of these things he'd have killed the franchise.
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and surprise surprise, he also supervise Netflix version before resigned
 
Itsuno is the guy who keeps trying to flush Dante down the toilet and keeps getting stopped, and if he'd gotten his way the franchise would have gone down that same toilet. Sometimes the credit is given to the director with no regard for the ones who reign them in. George Lucas never would have struck it big if his wife hadn't edited the first Star Wars, and Peter Jackson tried to add some pretty stupid crap into the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
 
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Clearly the team is main responsible for how the series turned out the way it did. If it was all Itsuno then we would've gotten more trashes like Reboot.

Hell, even PGR showcased a very amazing DMC esque content in all its glory.
 
SuperSonicTL said:
Clearly the team is main responsible for how the series turned out the way it did. If it was all Itsuno then we would've gotten more trashes like Reboot.

Hell, even PGR showcased a very amazing DMC esque content in all its glory.
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Truth to be told, infact Itsuno approved DmC where you can see Dante at first trailer look like a crakhead and even smoking. Luckly fans complain are so bad they start to change that, even though it look like Tameem who self insert to Donte.

Lowkey he doesn't want Dante to be the face of DMC franchise, hell, if DMC 6 is made by him I wouldn't surprise Dante became much more hobo looking while Nero become better.
 
Thehunter077 said:
Truth to be told, infact Itsuno approved DmC where you can see Dante at first trailer look like a crakhead and even smoking. Luckly fans complain are so bad they start to change that, even though it look like Tameem who self insert to Donte.

Lowkey he doesn't want Dante to be the face of DMC franchise, hell, if DMC 6 is made by him I wouldn't surprise Dante became much more hobo looking while Nero become better.
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He did the same thing repeatedly. It's a pattern.

  • He tried to make DMC4 just about Nero.

  • He approved the reboot. Even while NT were openly attacking the audience.

  • He told everyone that the sales of the Definitive compared to DMC4SE wouldn't impact the franchise's future, which was untrue. This blatant test, releasing the two simultaneously, was skewed (likely deliberately) in the reboot's favour by giving it both a physical and digital release while 4SE only got a digital one, and yet SE outsold reboot anyway. He probably believed what he was saying was the truth though, because he probably believed the reboot was going to be the future no matter what.

  • He tried to make reboot 2 and had to be pushed to make DMC5.

  • After DMC5 he happily announced that now that it was done he could finally make reboot 2, the one he clearly wanted to make more.
I respect Itsuno as a director, but treating him as the definitive authority and the person to credit for all DMC is not accurate. If he'd had his way the franchise would have died over 15 years ago.
 
Thehunter077 said:
If DMC 6 is made by him I wouldn't surprise Dante became much more hobo looking while Nero become better.
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As of right now, Itsuno cant do any DMC6 since he left Capcom to form his own studio, plus he stated he wants to do more then DMC6 and other projects Capcom might have gave him

And i doubt Itsuno will return any soon to make a DMC6 if he got back with Capcom, clearly wants to do his own thing

Kamiya could possibly do a remake of DMC1 much like RE does if Capcom is willing to approve
 
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