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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread 9

I was thinking the opposite. It's been quite a while since 5 came out, I don't see a reason why we should keep the spoiler warnings.
 
The Sid Abigail High 6-A feat was actually 7-A and they are currently scaled to Urizen feat.

Which one? Cause the tree was calced at 6-C wasn't it?
 
Don't we also normally have a policy of putting images in the same order as the character's keys? I remember discussing that regarding Bleach, and the only reason the profiles remained unchanged (aside from Ichigo) was because there were so many with that problem.

Edit: And even they got updated later
 
They took it off because Dante "required help" each time he used it, even though they ignored the fact that in DMC1 he was out of energy after fighting Mundus and Trish gave him some which naturally means he can seal with enough energy.
 
Dienomite22 said:
They took it off because Dante "required help" each time he used it, even though they ignored the fact that in DMC1 he was out of energy after fighting Mundus and Trish gave him some which naturally means he can seal with enough energy.
Ehh

Even then, it's trish's power and knowledge that did it.

Dante never uses sealing again with his own abilities so there's no particular reason to assume he can just pull it if he had enough.
 
Her knowledge had nothing to do with it, it was literally established Dante was sapped of his energy for fighting Mundus and being in the human world.You're essentially saying Trish>Dante and she could've sealed Mundus all on her own.She gave him her energy and he fired the shot by himself.

Most of the time Dante used sealing is also when he was weakened or low on energy.

Hell it could even be argued he used sealing on Argosax because it showed electricity around the gun similar to when Trish gave him power in DMC1.
 
I mean, haxishness isn't strictly tied to fighting power, so, probably?

The Argosax point is fair though
 
DMUA said:
I mean, haxishness isn't strictly tied to fighting power, so, probably?
That's true but the energy required to perform the hax was the only thing Dante was given energy, not the power to seal.
 
Trish just leaves it at "power", she doesn't say "Here's enough energy to use this one specific technique you never demonstrated before and would have been really useful earlier when you actually had the juice for it!" or anything of the like. It's vague.
 
Because he was angry and stomped Mundus to the point he thought he killed him.There was no need from his point of view nor the players point of view until Mundus came back.
 
Dante was ready to do the same thing to arkham but he hitted Dante and Vergil grabbed the other pistol,then the two of them sended arkham back to the human world.
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Urizen shaking the foundation of the world
Wasn't that a statment not a feat? Even if we take it at face value... why isn't it on Vergil or Dante's page. Neither of them mention it. Vergil just scales to Dante who scales to Vergil.
 
Been trying to S rank mission 17 and found out you royal gaurd Urizen's knockback shockwaves, pretty neat
 
Dante should have afterimage creation for while in SDT and Vergil have afterimage creation in his DMC3 incarnation since that takes place after his DMC4 incarnation which can create Afterimages when the motivation (concentration) meter is high.
 
Jesterofgames said:
Wasn't that a statment not a feat? Even if we take it at face value... why isn't it on Vergil or Dante's page. Neither of them mention it. Vergil just scales to Dante who scales to Vergil.
Dont know why its not there,also statements are taken in consideration
 
Yes I know but isn't that statment ambigous and also... not backed up by anything? Especially since the profile was wrote from the perspective of a regular human (I.E. Nico.)
 
Guys, when selecting Dante on a mission, press L1 + R1 + L2 + R2, then confirm

You'll play with Mission 10 Dante, that clean version before the first fight against Urizen
 
Jesterofgames said:
Yes I know but isn't that statment ambigous and also... not backed up by anything? Especially since the profile was wrote from the perspective of a regular human (I.E. Nico.)
it was talked about Nico legitimacy with her words before by others,only her saying about Dante possibly surpassing Sparda isnt legit(since Dante did that since dmc2-4)
 
@Jester

The justification, if I remember correctly from the last discussion thread, is that when Urizen consumed the fruit from the Qliphoth, he shook the planet from the power increase.

As a bonus of eating the fruit, Vergil could move the Qliphoth itself. The kinetic energy from that was calculated to be in the 6-C range.

Now, as stated by Trish, Mundus himself consumed the fruit in order to become the ruler of the demon realm. This is backed up by King Cerberus stating only kings of Hell could access the tree, which Mundus was at one point and Urizen was at the time.

Because Dante was able to defeat a serious Mundus several years before, the idea that he can dish out as much as Mundus could is understandable

But in DMC5, Dante is at his most powerful after years of experience and absorbing both the Rebellion and the Demon Sword Sparda, which gives him access to to 2/3rds of Sparda's split power in the weapons (the last third was in Yamato). With this power, Dante defeated Urizen and was on equal ground with Vergil after V and Urizen merged.

Urizen has been shown to be extremely powerful, completely jobbering Trish, Lady, Nero, and early game Dante, the same man who beat Mundus and grew more powerful. Then later, after Dante's power increase, he survived his defeat at Dante's hands

In summary, because of the moving of the tree, newly discovered abilities for Mundus, Dante absorbing his substantial power, and his standing with Urizen, that's why the high end for planet shaking, Low 6-B, was used.

I'm sure Killah or others will jump in if I'm wrong, but that's my explanation for the justification.
 
Excellent post

Just one thing, The Qliphoth was actually moving on its own, we don't have statements or anything that says that it was Vergil who was moving it

Not that it changes something, we know that the Fruit is > Qliphoth as stated by Trish, and this little tree is basically "alive" hunting Human Blood and can perform 6-C feats, so Mundus and everyone who's comparable to him scales
 
Dante needs power nullification added to his page as he could separate sid from Abigail's power

I still think Dante should have Regenerationn negation up to mid argosax could've regenerate from Dante's attacks
 
He never separated them, I remember him overpowering Sid then he got weaker again (exhaustion) and Dante killed him.

And regen negation could go up to what ever the hell abigail has.
 
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