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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread 10

@Dieno -- I know, but still, you leave a debate where you disagree with the upgraders only to come back and see they're trying to push something on another front? That could be hurtful to him, like the mice going to play while the cat's away. Just wait till this other CRT is done; I doubt he'd disagree with the abilities stuff, but it'd be simple courtesy to the guy single-handedly trying to be the other side of a dialogue to not be patient with him.

Thought it'd be fine to prepare/warm up/discuss such a CRT in advance in the meantime.

@BD -- Make sure your friend knows the context of the scenario; that can change what words get translated into English.
 
@Follow Doctor Freeman

I mean, I guess I can see where you're coming from so I won't make it now. But I don't think Matt really has a say on the matter and him potentially getting hurt by it doesn't really matter (although I doubt he would).
 
@Tony -- Oh, that interview should be cool; I'll listen when I get a chance. By the way, speaking of mo-cap actors, have you guys see those mo-cap cutscenes with just the actors and such, not in-game?
 
@Ogbunabli

Holy shit you're right, meant "on" instead of "in", that does sound pretty cruel though but I wasn't trying to be a dick....at least not with that comment
 
Dienomite22 said:
@Dante Demon Killah

Anything that should be on the profiles labled as abilities.So hax are allowed.

Perhaps a "pot luck" thread would be best? So everyone can mention anything they find because I'm sure you and I alone can't name all the missed abilities.
Seems good, a "pre-CRT" to reunite every missed hax
 
Alright, I gotta take off, but before I go, lemme reiterate to you supporter guys that, whether I'm around or not, don't be mean to Matt. I hope I haven't invited that sort of thing by quetioning his methodlogy/epistemology; just because I disagree with the way he approaches this particular topic (which is real different than most wiki stuff by nature) doesn't mean he's being dishonest or lazy. If anyone on the whole wiki has the right to use subjective interpretation as a primary source, I say it'd be the guy who almost single-handedly made all the Castlevania, TES, and Mythology pages. And MARVEL & DC. He might even agree with us had the case not been presented piecemeal over time, occasionally by jerks, so let's break that pattern.

So far no one's been really giving him a hand; I suppose since they're not sure they're on his level of expertise and such, so show some sympathy for a guy basically holding off a flood by himself. Plus I'm pretty sure he's going through exams in law school right now. So don't flip out on him. Maybe even ask some dissenters to chip in; we should get the correct answer, not the one we each may prefer, so the more balanced the sides are, the better. Not worth beating a guy down for, anyway.

Just keep all that in mind whenver the thread resumes; I'll help if I get the chance, but it's more important that you guys have fun than get a certain result. And don't write off anyone's opinion even if they're wrong this time, aight? Now I'm gonna do actual work or at least watch a Russian movie or something.
 
Hey. Matt here. Typing this on my phone during class break so I'll be brief (Just had an exam too).

I apologise if I acted rash or unprofessionally in that thread, and if my comments came off as confrontational and or unclear. It was never my intention and I was primarily trying to express my opinions and my methodology through a clear way. But visibly some didn't take well to my diverging opinions, which couple with the occasional jerks and the confrontational nature of the threads so far, didn't go exactly as planned.

The thing is, I'm tired, very much so. I am constantly flooded with threads, requests and messages asking me to participate in revisions, threads, rule discussions and even matches, often with me having no real interest in the matter discussed at hand. And I have to participate, of course, being an Admin is practically a job. And when coupled with real life things and my other interests, I barely have time to do what I actually want on this website.

So I tend to get impatient and intolerant on threads. Because I've been here for about three and a half years now and the human brain recognizes patterns. It's easy to forget that you're often dealing with new members and not all old timers. So sometimes I'll see a point that has been brought literally a dozen times before and get annoyed that it's even being discussed. But hell, maybe it's news to the people bringing it up.

In conclusion, I need time to breathe here. I would kindly ask for people to wait until the Saturday to continue this discussion, where I'll realistically have more time to express my opinion through careful, detailed posts. Probably even going to make a giant text wall explaining my views in further depth.

That way nobody needs to be on edge and rush things through. I hope I make sense. And again, thank you for listening to me.
 
Thank you for being honest, Matthew. I want you to know that even when it seems like people have been harsh, here on the wiki people really do respect you. We love all the work and effort you've put into the VBW so far, and the last thing we'd want to do is put more stress on you. I practically crumble at any kind of confrontation, so I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you.
 
I'm back for a bit, and I'm glad to see we're holding off. Yeah, also even when Matt does have time to continue, let's give him a chance to call for backup. I do think we should do whatever we do based on a majority opinion, so long as that opinion isn't ridiculous, but we shouldn't commit a consensus fallacy, either. I don't think that's the case here, but we won't have to worry about that if more opposition than just Matt join the fray.

Assuming no new evidence comes to light or any other headway is made, I think we have a case of "It's probable that all this stuff adds up to the OP rather than splintering off nto different directions" vs "It's possible that each one point the OP uses could mean something else, so let's say no to be safe." I should recognize my own position (the former) is also subjective to some degree. Still think it's more reasonable, but that's why we should get more guys on Matt's side (as long as they aren't "reasons above"-ing) so we can't say the opposition's just one guy. I mean, mebbe it is, but let's nag some other supporters into giving their say, and then we can either debunk what they say or concede, depending on their potency.

But anyway, a more important question: are Pizza Bites as good as normal pizza? There will be a test.
 
Drat, all I got for wages are pizza bites. I don't think any labor's that cheap (except me), but let's discuss the value of pizza bites in relation to normal pizza before we jump to conclusions.
 
If we live in a world where pizza bites are considered better than regular pizza, I'm pretty sure I just entered an alternate dimension. Pizza is love, pizza is life.
 
DarkGrath said:
If we live in a world where PORTAL bites are considered better than regular PORTALS, I'm pretty sure I just entered an alternate dimension THROUGH A PORTAL. Portal is love, portal is life.
 
I think I'm going to have an aneurysm processing this.
 
What happens if you eat a portal bite? Do you teleport or will the portal bit just be swirling around in your stomach sucking up everything you eat?Sounds great until the hunger kicks in.
 
Now I'm imagining the portal absorbing your organs and turning you into a living carcass.

Yeah, I ruined it.
 
Well, it's better than slowly dying from the portal absorbing whatever you eat and you can't do anything about.

One of my worst fears tbh
 
Truly I see now the hidden power Sparda had stashed away in Yamato... cutting space to get ahead in the bathroom line.

Devious millenial demon...!
 
Apparently Devil Sword Dante has a will of its own and defends Dante when he's on offensive.

Another instance of Instinctive Reaction for Dante, I guess.
 
No, it explicitly says it's the sword itself. The summoned swords which it projects are just means of defense. Here's the screenshot

DSD IR
 
@RebubleUselet

The description saying it "backs him up" when he goes on the offensive doesn't mean that it backs him up solely by defense, the gameplay and descriptions for it's DSD attacks shows it basically does both attack and defense logically simutaneously.
 
Not sure if they are relevant anymore at this point but i took some pics of the suns said to be inside the Mirror World and Evil Dimensions

Screenshot 20190414-223918 YouTube
Screenshot 20190414-232720 YouTube
 
Also when Dante exits the Evil Dimension,the demon Nightmare shoots some beams,they seem to be light to me at least and when it does later in the game Dante dodges one of those,it could be potentially something worth checking
 
Dante already got a Relativistic calc

Also, Arius's ritual caused a Eclipse likely faster than that one from Castlevania, and that one is 5-A
 
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