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Gonna make this quick given I got that extra hour, as other CRTs for this verse are dead, so might tackle all of them in one:
Spamton and Jevil revisions
These 2 profiles are scanless to the point is scary and bad, especially given that they're easily the most iconic characters of DR.
Spamton
Original profile
Reworked P&A
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And apparentely, as even the profile says, the wires are not connected to anything, as it's supported from the fact that Spamton can freely travel anywhere, as shown from him moving from the basement to the fountain in the Snowgrave route despite the door for the basement being way too small for the wires to go through, meaning that those are not connected to any kind of roof.
My main suggestion behind infinite stamina is that as long as his wires are there to supply him, Spamton will always be active, because otherwise his plan to conquer the Cyber World would be nonsensical, as it implies that he'll eventually run out of energy without anything to supply him. Not to mention that there's simply... no reason to assume that the wires would eventually stop giving electricity out of nowhere, given that's simply out wires work. We see them giving energy indefinitely as long as they're not compromised after all (hence if he's given a straight infinite would be better but heh).
Supporting evidence is him trying to outlast Kris with the Bluelight Specil through locking them in a situation where he's basically unbeatable until they get tired and eventually lose.
Also the profile name should be "Spamton G. Spamton". He says that as his full name twice and even the Sweepstakes website refers to him as such.
Jevil
Original profile
Reworked P&A
Changes:
SS for Cyber World Darkners
Don't get why they have all kinds of Self Sustenance only because "lol robots".
Type 1 is obvious, so it's ok. Type 2 no because these Darkners literally have food that can even be consumed by the Delta Warriors. Type 3 neither because Queen (the literal ruler and the most advanced one) relies on batteries, which would make nonsensical that her underlings have infinite stamina unlike her.
So yeah... downgrade all of them to Type 1 (and limited Type 3 for Spamton NEO if him having infinite stamina is accepted).
They'll also be downgraded from Infinite to Superhuman due to scaling from Rouxls, given he's a minor boss like them.
Cold Resistance for strong characters
The entire reason behind the rating is them lacking the weakness to ice Berdly has, making them more resistant to ice than him who could not be frozen by IceShock which instantly freezes fodders.
I'd argue that this should not be Cold resistant but just Ice Manipulation resistance, as the current wording on the profiles makes it seem like they're unbothered by just... cold air, when it's clearly not just that.
Characters who rn have this other than Berdly are:
Minor Space Manipulation for playables
Right now it's accepted that Kris has this ability to directly strike the opponent from a distance with melee strikes even if they're far away, however this is not indexed as anything.
First to give more context to the ability, in Deltarune the attacks which are used in gameplay are potrayed as acting the exact same in cutscenes. Some examples:
I think this would go under Minor Spatial Manipulation, as I don't think what else would this would be given that Toon Physiology from Looney Tunes has it under this power.
Obviously every playable character should have this (Kris, Susie, Ralsei and Noelle), with Berdly getting a "possibly" as while he never directly showed it as he was never playable, him having this too shouldn't be that far fetched given that almost only Lightners have this (Ralsei being the exception).
Return of Low 7-C for Top tiers
Tried this in another thread but it's so dead that I might try it here tbh.
Original Low 7-C calculation is here. It was downgraded to 8-A based on it not being actual fire (thus making Mach 5 unusable) due to Queen calling attack slow. However context was pretty much taken away from here:
Spamton and Jevil revisions
These 2 profiles are scanless to the point is scary and bad, especially given that they're easily the most iconic characters of DR.
Spamton
Original profile
Reworked P&A
Changes:
- Used scans
- His keys are renamed in "Base" and "NEO"
- Base - Removed Multiple selves (as nothing says it's a whole other personality independent from Spamton)
- Base - Changed Technology Manipulation in Hacking and Fusionism
- Base - Information Manipulation was removed and changed in just Reality Warping
- NEO - His Regeneration was changed to Low-Mid as he's basically restoring his heart(s), which fits more than High-Low which is only for minor internal damage.
- NEO - Added SOUL Absorption
And apparentely, as even the profile says, the wires are not connected to anything, as it's supported from the fact that Spamton can freely travel anywhere, as shown from him moving from the basement to the fountain in the Snowgrave route despite the door for the basement being way too small for the wires to go through, meaning that those are not connected to any kind of roof.
My main suggestion behind infinite stamina is that as long as his wires are there to supply him, Spamton will always be active, because otherwise his plan to conquer the Cyber World would be nonsensical, as it implies that he'll eventually run out of energy without anything to supply him. Not to mention that there's simply... no reason to assume that the wires would eventually stop giving electricity out of nowhere, given that's simply out wires work. We see them giving energy indefinitely as long as they're not compromised after all (hence if he's given a straight infinite would be better but heh).
Supporting evidence is him trying to outlast Kris with the Bluelight Specil through locking them in a situation where he's basically unbeatable until they get tired and eventually lose.
Also the profile name should be "Spamton G. Spamton". He says that as his full name twice and even the Sweepstakes website refers to him as such.
Jevil
Original profile
Reworked P&A
Changes:
- More scans
- Made a resistance tabber to make his profile more readable
- Made his Longevity a "likely", given that Jevil is generally insane, so him saying a cryptic thing is not that unlikely
- Removed Chaos Manipulation (he has literally NOTHING that hints at him literally having chaos-related powers)
- Gave more context to Shapeshifting and Size manipulation
- Reality Warping and Void Manipulation got mixed
SS for Cyber World Darkners
Don't get why they have all kinds of Self Sustenance only because "lol robots".
Type 1 is obvious, so it's ok. Type 2 no because these Darkners literally have food that can even be consumed by the Delta Warriors. Type 3 neither because Queen (the literal ruler and the most advanced one) relies on batteries, which would make nonsensical that her underlings have infinite stamina unlike her.
So yeah... downgrade all of them to Type 1 (and limited Type 3 for Spamton NEO if him having infinite stamina is accepted).
They'll also be downgraded from Infinite to Superhuman due to scaling from Rouxls, given he's a minor boss like them.
Cold Resistance for strong characters
The entire reason behind the rating is them lacking the weakness to ice Berdly has, making them more resistant to ice than him who could not be frozen by IceShock which instantly freezes fodders.
I'd argue that this should not be Cold resistant but just Ice Manipulation resistance, as the current wording on the profiles makes it seem like they're unbothered by just... cold air, when it's clearly not just that.
Characters who rn have this other than Berdly are:
Minor Space Manipulation for playables
Right now it's accepted that Kris has this ability to directly strike the opponent from a distance with melee strikes even if they're far away, however this is not indexed as anything.
First to give more context to the ability, in Deltarune the attacks which are used in gameplay are potrayed as acting the exact same in cutscenes. Some examples:
- Susie's normal attacks: Battle Mode and Cutscene
- Susie's Rude Buter: Battle Mode and Cutscene
- Ralsei's Pacifier: Battle Mode and Cutscene
- Noelle's Snowgrave is both Battle Mode and Cutscene
I think this would go under Minor Spatial Manipulation, as I don't think what else would this would be given that Toon Physiology from Looney Tunes has it under this power.
Obviously every playable character should have this (Kris, Susie, Ralsei and Noelle), with Berdly getting a "possibly" as while he never directly showed it as he was never playable, him having this too shouldn't be that far fetched given that almost only Lightners have this (Ralsei being the exception).
Return of Low 7-C for Top tiers
Tried this in another thread but it's so dead that I might try it here tbh.
Original Low 7-C calculation is here. It was downgraded to 8-A based on it not being actual fire (thus making Mach 5 unusable) due to Queen calling attack slow. However context was pretty much taken away from here:
- Queen says that only if you fail to punch the thing (which you have to do on purpose lol), meaning that she was merely mocking you to not do such an easy task. She's literally the same character who says stuff like Adults being just Big Children, this legendary scene, her putting goofy attempts to replicate Kris' search history, or her saying that Lightners are already her slaves (here the full dialogue if you're curious). Aka I don't think we should take the statement this seriously.
- If you watch the scene frame by frame (press , and . while the video is paused if you want to do it), you'll notice the flame starts only after that Queen throws the ball, meaning it did geniunely catch fire.
- GIGA Queen has pretty much blitzed the main cast without the Thrash Machine (which has Supersonic feats prior if we ignore the Relativistic stuff), meaning that her finding Mach 5 slow too isn't that much of a reach either.
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