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oh god plz no when everyone comes out of glamour wordl assume she soul carpet bombs everything anyone who doesnt have good evade/precog feats shouldnt be revived
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Delta vs Bambietta Basterbine vs Big Mom vs Erza Scarlett vs Merlin Vs Dorothy Unsworth vs Ryuko vs Crona vs Esdeath vs Chrome Dokuro vs Issei
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Wait so being angry you lost a fight qualifies as a weak willpower? How? She just ate all her bombs point blank and was angry she lost 1st.
As for the 2nd part she was about to be turned into a zombie slave to “help” her.
As for the 2nd part she was about to be turned into a zombie slave to “help” her.
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? Ive been saying she uses her willpower shockwaves from the beginning, i even referenced her and mom clashing near the start of the thread
Loyd
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i wouldnt call her willpower weak but with so lil screen time she has. against conquerer haki u need some feat of good willpower any feat you have? and she'll be fine
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Loyd
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why would she use it at the beginning? she only used conquerers cause she saw kaido(old history idk) anyone in the group warrant something like that
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She means Ryuko
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He’s going off based on what you stated about her after she got 1 shot. I don’t see how you can say her will was weak in this scenario because she lost.
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No i mean Ryuko using hr shockwaves
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I mean, someone else who seemed like she had good willpower "queen of the little sisters who sniped fighters with drugs and was willing to snipe a second in command of one of the strongest pirate crew" got knocked out effortlessly by 2 people that Big Mom bodied with Conqueror's... so idk man
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i mean it would have been cooler if she used her puppet technique to get back up and fight or told the quincy girls to go **** themselves before becoming zombi bambi, till then i assume everybodys willpower is average.
so if big mom used conquerers haki everybody fighting would need a good willpower feat to not get incapacitated
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With wank, her Willpower is as good as Luffy's.
WITH WANK.
Big Mom's Conqueror's put Luffy on the ground.
She's getting knocked out.
WITH WANK.
Big Mom's Conqueror's put Luffy on the ground.
She's getting knocked out.
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Regardless.
Haoshoku gg.
Now, I've stated the myriad of things Linlin would do to Ryuko.
What can Ryuko do to Linlin?
Haoshoku gg.
Now, I've stated the myriad of things Linlin would do to Ryuko.
What can Ryuko do to Linlin?
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Summarize linlin forsomeone not paying attntion...?
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Hehehehe
Linlin's Precognition would be useless against the variety of ways that Ryuko can evade her sensing, but she can use her sensing while she's in her vision to see where she's going to go.
Linlin has an extremely wide range with her clouds, and she can summon lightning wherever she wants with pinpoint accuracy (not literal pinpoint accuracy people).
In the case that Ryuko dodges the lightning (which is the most possible event), she can summon lightning wherever she ends up moving.
She can make a large number of clouds who can shoot lightning as well, she has to fight a huge fireball and thundercloud with immaterial and elemental intangibility, she can make ground and sky homies, etc.
Her sword shockwaves can travel tens of kilometers away.
She can amp her durability with Busoshoku Haki, and it'll get stronger over time via accelerated development, but since AP amps are restricted, it'll be durability that gets stronger and stronger over time.
She has attack reflection plus a forcefield on her Busoshoku haki which she can apply to any limb and her weapon.
If there is enough water from the thunderstorm she can make a tsunami.
Her thunderstorm was also shown to create syrup, take that how you will. Maybe a Syrup Tsunami.
She also has acid spit, that does a lot.
So yeah, she's broken
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I mean even that is kinda hard to argue given Ryuko's established speed amp, her ability to bypass people's vision, and her liberal use of afterimages
All of would be useful but Ryuko's speed again makes it extremely difficult for her to land a solid hit
As can Ryuko's
So theyre equal in that regard dueto Ryuko's zenkai and rage amp
Again something theyre equal in
...Was a battlefield ever established? Are they still in the dream world...?
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What's the context behind this? That's from Uzu yes? For starters Uzu doesn't have Precog, Uzu has Analytical Prediction which is vastly inferior to Future Sight based precog, he's predicting based off of Muscle Movement.
He's basically just a watered down version of Fujitora who can do everything he can do but has High Tier Kenbunshoku granting him Analytical Prediction, real Precog, mind reading, aura sensing, danger sensing and a butt load of Enhanced Senses. And Fujitora himself isn't even a top tier Kenbunshoku Haki user, top tier Kenbunshoku Haki users are people like Kata, Shanks, Mihawk and anyone who can react to Kizaru.
Reminder as to what happened to Luffy whenever his Kenbunshoku Haki (Which at the time had Analytical Prediction, mind reading, Intent sensing and emotion sensing.) was getting utterly destroyed by a more advanced Kenbunshoku Haki user. Uzu's Analytical Prediction falls flat in comparison to Big Mom's flat out Precog amongst other types of her own Prediction.
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Thats Mk 1 Uzu, Mk 2/3/4 Uzu dosnt have that, he has actual precog, he specifically sewed his yes shut so he wouldnt rely on just using muscle movement prediction
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By sealing away his sense of sight, Sanageyama enhances his other senses and his affinity with his Goku Uniform. He gains the ability to anticipate his opponent’s actions at a greater level by sensing the area all around him.
He isn't looking into the future, he's sensing his surroundings. Which is something the blind Fujitora can already do, Fujitora being the same person who isn't in the peak of Kenbunshoku Haki users.
Users of Kenbunshoku Haki can also fight unhindered whenever spatially slashed apart. Kino could fight as a torso, navigate using his lower body and still communicate with his mouth.
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So Imma wait an hour before i counter, because in the chance where it's not precognition, that would be extremely influential for my argument
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How so?
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lmao i think its ending soon
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Gonna point out that if verse equal is in play for the haki, Bambi just absorbs it.
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Big Mom has struck people with precognition comparable to her and with speed that was able to hit people who could bypass precognition superior to hers.
How frequent can she shoot those shockwaves? And is it energy draining?
Does her's regularly keep going up or it requires her to get hurt?
Is she able to apply it on her body?
They've been brought back to the real world since Dorothy is gone.
And question.
In the case where BM goes Berserk, and she starts giving off crazy sound waves, I see that Ryuko's able to redirect/cancel them out, but a few questions.
A. Does she passively do that or she needs to keep swinging and swinging?
B. Can she do that while trying to take the lightning and fire from Prometheus and Zeus?
C. Can she do it to omnidirectional sound waves or just sound waves focused in one direction?
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Because then the first 2 points would have been dead
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Basically all the usages in the videos linked before show that it travels out as a wave of energy (not talking about the shockwave). Seeing as it travels out as energy which then KOs people, Bambi should absorb it via basic reishi/reiryoku domination.
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Big Mom's Haki wouldn't even be the main force, her homies would be, and those fall out of the verse equalization
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Haoshoku is the one that will actually stop Bambi if it hits though. Homies get soul ripped if they come close while Blut blocks range attacks. Does Mom have ranged dura neg?
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It actually doesn't travel out as energy, at all, and it's not tangible. That's the anime's way of portraying it.
It hits your mind and sees if you have good willpower. If you do, you're good.
The only one that can be absorbed is Busoshoku Haki, which has no correlation to Haoshoku. Haoshoku has never been shown to be blocked, evaded, deflected, anything. It's a wave of willpower.
There's no "if it hits", it's a guarantee'd hit.
It's not NLF either, the point of it is to see if you have a good willpower, not to see if your reaction time is good enough to block it.
Homies do not come close, they stay far in their island sized range of cloud and spam attacks from a distance.
No, but she has shockwaves of pure air that do not get absorbed.
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If it’s not a visible thing or energy that spreads out, how is it that people mention seeing the color of Haoshoku on multiple occasions?
Luffy has Haoshoku clashes with other people though and we visibly see that it needs to cross a distance and has travel time?
Blut basically handles those. Haoshoku really is the only thing that matters tbh.
Anyone know what the next battle royale theme will be? This one seems like it’s gonna wrap up within2-4 pages the day.
Luffy has Haoshoku clashes with other people though and we visibly see that it needs to cross a distance and has travel time?
Blut basically handles those. Haoshoku really is the only thing that matters tbh.
Anyone know what the next battle royale theme will be? This one seems like it’s gonna wrap up within
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They don't literally see the color of Haoshoku.
They call it the "Color of Conqueror's", which is why people say "CoC" (Color of Conqueror's, or Haoshoku), "CoA" (Color of Armament, or Busoshoku), and "CoO" (Color of Observation, or Kenbunshoku).
The name of the technique is "Color of Conqueror's", not literally seeing the color of it.
That's the clash. The clash produces a shockwave which gives destructive effects, which is why every time 2 god tiers clash with Conqueror's, they split the sky.
Every time we see a single user use it (Luffy, Shanks, Rayleigh), it does no wave. The visible sight is the shockwave produced by the force of their attacks, because they can somehow amplify their techniques with Conqueror's, which is why we see the lightning from their fist and lightning in the collision points of Haki.
Since Haoshoku can't be blocked, she gets knocked.
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If that’s true, that’s fine then. So does this mean we bring back everyone Bambi dropped or do we just stick with Mom and Ryuko? If it’s the latter, I vote off Ryuko since she can’t do anything to Mom.
Edit: Does Ryuko have a quantification for her willpower? Cuz Mom might just neg via being quantifiable when they clash.
Edit: Does Ryuko have a quantification for her willpower? Cuz Mom might just neg via being quantifiable when they clash.
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Weekly brought it up in the beginning and everybody ignored him/her (no disrespect, I genuinely don't know anybody's gender on this forum), and since it's been 20 pages, it'd be better to just drop Bambi.
I usually don't bring up quantifications, but it needs to be over 100,000 people before she comes in the realm of her Haoshoku
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Nah it doesn't take that much time, but people would start arguing about "well my character lost all of her toes, regrew them, and lost them again, then they fought someone who was much stronger than them knowing that they could die yadayadayada" and we'd turn the thread into an argument of "who has good willpower"