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Delta vs Bambietta Basterbine vs Big Mom vs Erza Scarlett vs Merlin Vs Dorothy Unsworth vs Ryuko vs Crona vs Esdeath vs Chrome Dokuro vs Issei

Also who's still in this?


Voting Erza and Ryuko out, as she can make quick work out of the two of them via soul destruction with her attacks to kill Erza and turning Ryuko into a bomb which Ryuko can't resist or regenerate from.
 
What are the votes currently?

Big Mom: Weekly (I'm assuming)
Ryuko: Tempest (Me), LordGin
Incon: Everybody
 
Loyd said:
did we agree if ryuko can regen from BM vaporising attacks?
im voting Ryuko aswell
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Yes, we did, it was agreed that she can

So Far there havent been any reasons for ryuko to be out so I dont know why you're voting for her
 
Who would win the stamina war?
I doubt BM can get past ryuko's regen and reactive evolution ( speed, durability )
But BM's Observation Haki and shockwaves + homie creation make it likely to be a very long lasting battle
 
I'm honestly thinking this is going to be inconclusive, ryuko's speed and dura amps makw it so that mom cant hurt ryuko with non-hax abilities and ryuko can regen from or resist her hax while mom's accelerated development, precog, and dura amps means that ryuko cant hurt her either
 
Epiccheev said:
only big mom and ryuko, now that bambietta is out
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How did Ryuko survive getting vaporized or her soul destroyed by Bambi? Anyway, Ryuko and Big Mom are the only ones left and I'll vote Ryuko out for the next one.


Willpower

Ryuko's willpower isn't comparable to Luffy's, nor is she comparable to Big Mom's own willpower. Ryuko can make shockwaves from her willpower, that can damage her opponents. That very different from Haoshoku Haki which is emitting one's own will power and said will power is used to dominate the wills of others, with a shockwave that barely causes damage. Haoshosku is emitting your will and forcing it onto others to render them unconscious, the shockwave is just that a shockwave.


The shockwave is a very minor aspect of Haoshoku Haki that only does minor damage to inanimate objects, the main purpose of Haoshoku is to dominate the wills of others with your own.



In Ryuko's case her willpower can generate shockwaves, she isn't emitting her willpower and using it to dominate the wills of others with nothing but her own will. She forms a shockwave that KO's fodder and an explosive aura. She isn't rendering them unconscious as a direct result of her will, the shockwave is what's knocking them out.


Ryuko's regeneration

WeeklyBattles said:
Yes, we did, it was agreed that she can

So Far there havent been any reasons for ryuko to be out so I dont know why you're voting for her
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Ryuko doesn't even have Low-High regeneration, she isn't regenerating from being vaporized. At no point was this ever agreed upon, the immorality needed to survive Bambi's stuff is Immorality Type 2. Surving wounds that would kill you without regeneration, like Hidan's from Naruto. That and Attack Reflection, Ryuko has either one of them. So how Ryuko made it this far is beyond me.
 
so if Big Moms haki dura negging attack dont overcome ryuko regen
she can eventually speed blitz is what im getting here

edit: nvm im learning new things
 
Ryuko survived bambietta because apparently, shockwaves are a counter to her reishi explosions.
Also, Ryuko really should have immortality type 2 if she doesn't, because by the point you can survive something capable of giving you high-mid you can already survive fatal injuries.
 
Loyd said:
so if Big Moms haki dura negging attack dont overcome ryuko regen
she can eventually speed blitz is what im getting here

edit: nvm im learning new things
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Ryuko has a constant speed amp on top of being able to massively speed blitz already from fighting her clones earlier
 
Epiccheev said:
Ryuko survived bambietta because apparently, shockwaves are a counter to her reishi explosions.
Also, Ryuko really should have immortality type 2 if she doesn't, because by the point you can survive something capable of giving you high-mid you can already survive fatal injuries.
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She should yes, hell Ragyo who has the same level of regen was able to move her body while she was decapitated
 
LordGinSama said:
Ryuko's regeneration



Ryuko doesn't even have Low-High regeneration, she isn't regenerating from being vaporized. At no point was this ever agreed upon, the immorality needed to survive Bambi's stuff is Immorality Type 2. Surving wounds that would kill you without regeneration, like Hidan's from Naruto. That and Attack Reflection, Ryuko has either one of them. So how Ryuko made it this far is beyond me.
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So you didnt read any of this debate huh? I recommend you go back and actually look at the arguments because it was agreed that Mom doesnt have instant regen, that instead it's a gradual burning which ryuko can absolutely regen from
 
Epiccheev said:
Ryuko survived bambietta because apparently, shockwaves are a counter to her reishi explosions.
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Nope, they need to be reflected which Ryuko doesn't have. Big Mom does.
Epiccheev said:
Also, Ryuko really should have immortality type 2 if she doesn't, because by the point you can survive something capable of giving you high-mid you can already survive fatal injuries.
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Not really, your survival is based upon your regeneration. Without the regeneration they'd die, that's how that works. It's recovery, they heal afterwards and once you introduce something that negates that regeneration they can't survive what they could before. Type 2 is saying **** you to regeneration all together and having immortality like "i can lose my arm, not regenerate it all and be fine." while type 3 is survival off of regeneration.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
So you didnt read any of this debate huh?
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I was here since about page 7 and read the page, miss me that "you didn't read stuff."
WeeklyBattles said:
I recommend you go back and actually look at the arguments because it was agreed that Mom doesnt have instant regen, that instead it's a gradual burning which ryuko can absolutely regen from
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I recommend you learn how to read because i never said Big Mom can vaporize her, I'm talking about Bambi. Not sure where you got me saying Big Mom can vaporize Ryuko from.
 
LordGinSama said:
I was here since about page 7 and read the page, miss me that "you didn't read stuff."

I recommend you learn how to read because i never said Big Mom can vaporize her, I'm talking about Bambi. Not sure where you got me saying Big Mom can vaporize Ryuko from.
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Oh lol, ryuko can reflect the explosion with her shockwaves like she did in the show
 
If it really bothers you that much I can make a crt real quick to give ryuko attack reflection and type 2 immortality because she does in fact have them
 
WeeklyBattles said:
If you're really going to have a stick up your ass about this I can make a crt real quick to give ryuko attack reflection and type 2 immortality because she does in fact have them
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That stick is most definitely gonna remain "up my ass" until that CRT is made.


Doesn't really matter since Reshi and Kishi (physical matter.) can't interact with one another so the two attacks wouldn't even clash.
 
Yep bambi bomb are reishi if the shockwaves are physical technically it bypasses it
oh boy here we go
 
Loyd said:
Bambis out btw why are we still arguing her can we do ryuko vs big mom plz
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Because Bambi would've done damage before she's out.

Out ≠ Not being discussed anymore, it means that they die before the others, but it doesn't mean that her affect to the fight will be ignored
 
Ok heres your in character for the both of you

Ryuko gets carpet bomb shockwaves dont deflect she dies

Big mom tries to make a homie with one her soul manip is inferior it blows up she dies bambi wins woop woop
Bambi vs kayle plz
 
Loyd said:
Ok heres your in character for the both of you

Ryuko gets carpet bomb shockwaves dont deflect she dies

Big mom tries to make a homie with one her soul manip is inferior it blows up she dies bambi wins woop woop
Bambi vs kayle plz
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Via the Glamour World effects, Big Mom would've flew extremely far from the area, she wouldn't be affected
 
KingTempest said:
Via the Glamour World effects, Big Mom would've flew extremely far from the area, she wouldn't be affected
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I was joking
i thought haki had danger sense too

How likely is it that ryuko might tank one explosion for a speed amp suddenly to get one shot
 
Even though irrelevant, I know for sure Big Mom has spiritual NPI, since it's on her profile and she grabs souls for a living, so...
 
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