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Delta vs Bambietta Basterbine vs Big Mom vs Erza Scarlett vs Merlin Vs Dorothy Unsworth vs Ryuko vs Crona vs Esdeath vs Chrome Dokuro vs Issei

WeeklyBattles said:
That it does but it would still need to hit Ryuko, plus im really not sure how we treat lightning heat vs fire heat given that irl lightning has enough heat and energy to vaporize a person yet normal people can survive it, unless its shown to vaporize people comparable to her. Lightning and electricity stuff is weird
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Yeah I won't lie to you, it does seem like that in fiction a lot.

Zeus (the cloud) does have feats of drawing smoke (like drawing blood but heat wise) from Linlin who can casually touch and surround herself in Prometheus' heat.

Also, if speed or range was a problem, this is the minimum range for Big Mom's storms.
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Loyd said:
how does ryuko tag big mom with godly precog and can she damage her thru haki?
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She'll damage her but the regen neg isn't good enough to stop her from regenerating. Mid vs High Mid.
She's definitely fearless so the soul manip wouldn't work on her.

Big Mom has Proficient Busoshoku Haki which has attack reflection and a forcefield on top of that.
Big Mom badly outranges from her island wide storms which shoot lightning left and right.
Loyd said:
bypass precog? equal stats the hefty speed advantage is her taking dmg against big mom?
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Big Mom has godly extrasensory perception in itself with Observation Haki, and in the case where she turns the ground into a shit ton of homies (which she consistently does), they'll point out her location for her if she gets by any homies.
 
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Tfw you can destroy body and soul with every attack, but has 0 answer to something as basic as shockwave generation.
 
Loyd said:
edit high mid regen feeling incon

does haki stop regen?
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Up to Mid, not High Mid

High Mid is this
The ability to regenerate from being blown / cut to pieces, or from a small piece of the user's body, such as a severed head, a single organ, or a finger.
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And if she gets vaporized, she can't regen from that
 
Epiccheev said:
Tfw you can destroy body and soul with every attack, but has 0 answer to something as basic as shockwave generation.
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lol yep bambi not doing anything to shockwave generation just watching while passively getting an amp
 
KingTempest said:
Up to Mid, not High Mid

High Mid is this

And if she gets vaporized, she can't regen from that
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so ryuko needs to survive long enough to get the reactive speed amp to blitz
also does ryuko have anything to bypass blut defense or even haki defense

my mental image is a girl in a bikini? fighting with scisscors thats it
 
Loyd said:
bypass precog? equal stats she'll gain a speed advantage by taking dmg against big mom?
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She'd have a speed advantage from fighting against her clones from earlier, and yeah characters like Ryuko, Nui, and Satsuki can bypass thesenses of Uzu Sanageyama who has instinctive reaction, precognition, analytical prediction, aura sensing, and complete spatial awareness in 360 derees for bare minimum multiple kilometers
 
For Big Mom, at least from me.

She can beat Ryuko from spamming lightning which exceeds her resistance.
She can beat Bambi from spamming shockwaves which exceed her range.
 
XDragnoir said:
Bambi can fly and speed amp a lot no? I don't see how she would be out of range for much time.
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KingTempest said:
#1 Big Mom would have already been flying away in the Glamour World (please don't ask me to explain) where she would've been extremely far from Bambi's position
#2 Big Mom via this thread has already evacuated Bambi's blast radius, or her range. She would be far out of range.
#3 Big Mom can make more homies
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add "who can hold her off" to #3

Also she could keep her back with shockwaves
 
KingTempest said:
Dura amps are allowed?

She's not taking hits forever you know that right? And she still gets hit with the cloud element spam
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only ap amp are restricted blut durab increases with skalverei

wait at the beginning of the fight with clones would they really put ryuko close to death for the speed amp tho?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Her scaling to people who can avoid the senses of a guy with total 360 degree spatial awareness for multiple kilometers
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That's fair, but if she steps on the ground and she steps on a homie... the homie is gonna scream... and she'll be alerted.
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
I highly doubt range is that much of an issue here at all. At these speeds some km is nothing.
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Range on top of a bunch of sensing is an issue.

Everyone alive right now except Linlin has dogshit range. If Linlin is out of their way, they can't touch her until they get in range while she can electrocute them from anywhere
 
Loyd said:
only ap amp are restricted
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Wait really? Ryuko would be hella durable too then
Loyd said:
wait at the beginning of the fight with clones would they really put ryuko close to death for the speed amp tho?
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So long as they inflict wounds that would normally kill someone but dont kill her yeah, that tactic is kinda what she did in the final battle against Ragyo, foughtback while letting in hits that would hurt her but not kill her so she would rapidly amp
 
Since Dura amp is allowed, Busoshoku Haki dura amps are just stupidly high, so Ryuko would need more effort to hurt her on top of attack reflection and forcefield.

Except Bambi's haxed ass

WeeklyBattles said:
From whati can tell everyone will be flying wont they?
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Oh yeah.

Cloud homies too
 
KingTempest said:
That's fair, but if she steps on the ground and she steps on a homie... the homie is gonna scream... and she'll be alerted.

Range on top of a bunch of sensing is an issue.

Everyone alive right now except Linlin has dogshit range. If Linlin is out of their way, they can't touch her until they get in range while she can electrocute them from anywhere
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So again range wouldn’t really matter at these speeds.
Yeah she has sensing capabilities that will make her hard to hit but not impossible.

As for lightning what exactly will it do and why can’t Bambi just dodge this? Her movement technique will be as if she’s teleporting. And she only need to get a single hit in.
 
bambi negs everyones durability with soul attacks
big mom haki also negs everyones durability
no ap amp means ryuko literally needs some ability that bypasses defense
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
So again range wouldn’t really matter at these speeds.
Yeah she has sensing capabilities that will make her hard to hit but not impossible.
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I can agree with this, you're not wrong tbh.
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
As for lightning what exactly will it do and why can’t Bambi just dodge this? Her movement technique will be as if she’s teleporting. And she only need to get a single hit in.
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Observation tells Big Mom where she's going to go and she puts another lightning bolt in her path. She will do that until she gets hit.

The lightning isn't even the main portion, it's the shockwave that puts her down.
WeeklyBattles said:
I mean Ryuko would also have her dura amped to high hell as well
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True.

Big Mom has Accelerated Development with Haki, so even though her AP isn't getting boosted, her durability would get boosted over time, making it more and more durable.

Plus, Ryuko would need to bypass an army of homies (Bambi doesn't since she passively bodies people for no damn reason) before she gets to Linlin
 
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