Deciding on Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo (Verse)'s God Tiers in Part 1

[Aeyu]

I'm aware that there is a lack of character profiles at the moment for these characters, but chiefly among these profiles, and the first thing that needs to be addressed is the fusion character of Bobopatchnosuke, whose abilities, when divorced from the 4-A threshold that is generally agreed to be the baseline for the top tiers, allow him to create a space and time dimension each on top of the already existent 4 dimensional space time continuum in a realm of his choosing where he can control all aspects of this realm, as outlined below:

Majide Time (MÒâ╗T): BoboPatchnosuke's most powerful and infamous attack, it transforms its entire surroundings into Majide Space, a space-like dimension completely controlled by the fused warrior. In it, the rules of Majide apply, where the strange becomes common and grows more powerful with each exclamation of Majide!? (dub: Are you serious!?) by those trapped within, and yet they are always compelled to say it. All matters of time and space have no meaning in this world, only Majide.' [1][

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• MAJIDE (Majide Metamorphosis): An advanced ability done within Majide Time, BoboPatchnosuke inserts Majide inside every piece of his opponents, forcing them to reveal their most bizarre (and possibly true) serious secrets
• Majide

(Òâ×Òé©Òüº): Connected to the words maji (Òâ×Òé©), or "serious" and majime (þ£ƒÚØóþø«), "honest or serious", it is an exclamation that could be taken as meaning either Are you serious!? or Seriously!?. Although some characters exclaim this word due to the weird and wild circumstances of this series, it's best used in conjunction with BoboPatchnosuke's Majide Time, a time-space dimension where BoboPatchnosuke performs some truly bizarre attacks, leading to those trapped inside to constantly yell out this exclamation and make BoboPatchnosuke stronger.

This seems indicative of a Low 1-C rating, as both space and time dimensions are considered to be valid in determining one's tier, and it doesn't necessarily need to have another space dimension added on top of it. The non-linear nature of time in this created dimension also seems to support another dimension of time, as well.

Later (As Hadou will likely give evidence for) Super Bo-bobo demonstrates the ability to destroy both a higher space and time dimension, is shown to be vastly stronger to the above fusion, and is said to possess "Super-Dimensional," techniques that surpass the complexity of the fusion's abilities to a vast extent, and as I have been informed, this Super-Dimension is posited to exist as another higher space dimension, which would bring the other God Tiers, scaling off of Super Bo-bobo, if this information is all correct, to 7-D or higher, and thus warranting a 1-C rating. This seems to be supported with characters later on creating universes as though they were nothing and several mentionings about infinite power throughout the course of the series, as well as the generally wacky and non-euclidean nature of the anime/manga.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Following.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

While I am iffy, I can't help but laugh at the idea of 1-C Bo-bobo...XD

 

[Aeyu]

Hey, it's in Xenogears and SMT, and those are just humans who don't necessarily do any weird psychedelic trippy higher-D stuff (at least visually)

 

[Golden_Void]

What Dragon said lmao

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Honestly not seeing what makes this 1-C, a higher space or time dimension or whatever would just be like 5-D, how are they 7-D? Not sure i am understanding this.

 

[Aeyu]

A higher space and higher time dimension, and then the mention of ANOTHER space dimension after that

Universe is 4-D. One higher space dimension = 5-D. (High 2-A) then an additional higher time dimension = 6-D. (Low 1-C) Then another higher space dimension again = 7-D. (1-C)

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Majide Time is a higher space AND time dimension. The super-dimensional techniques used by Super Bo-bobo are dimensionally superior. One description for one such technique was a "super-dimensional emotional space of love and romance".

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

By the "super" prefix, they're literally referring to "above".

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Huh, that seems like a bit of an extrapolation there. Even if those dimensions are higher dimensionsal, it could just be multiple higher dimensions on the same dimensional level, unless one dimension is said to be on a higher dimensional level than the other. This seems iffy.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

The ones in Majide Time are held up with such statements. The super-dimensional techniques are, again, dimensionally superior to Majide Time.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Gonna need to see some proof here, cause i honestly still don't quite understand why they should be rated so high, so wanna see some evidence to decide for myself, and not wiki postings.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

What are you needing to see?

 

[Aeyu]

The Majide Space/time are not linear, already showing that they're more complex than the dimensions they're stacked on top of. Same dimensional level? How is non-linear time and non-euclidean space stacked on top of the already existing ones in an outside realm not indicative of a higher level? Additionally, I put references directly from the Bo-bobo Wiki in the posts, but if scans are really needed, I'm sure they can be provided.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Hadou Well first of proof majide space is higher dimensionsal, and then proof of bo-bobo destroying both a higher space and time dimension.

 

[Aeyu]

"All matters of time and space have no meaning in this world, only Majide"

This also seems to heavily imply that the space and time created are of a greater nature than the ones in realspace.

 

[Golden_Void]

Is there a video for this?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

The explanation Aeyu gave of Majide Time, along with the description they have of it on the Bo-bobo wiki. Do you actually want me to get scans of the Majide Time being used?

And Bo-bobo didn't like destroy said higher-dimensional things. Let me just say that the people Bobopatchnosuke fought where he used Majide Time against them are extremely fodder in the latter ends of part 1. Bo-bobo did casually destroying a space-time with his aura, albeit, the space-time he destroyed was also just a casual pocket reality that Rem has by dreaming.

Bo-bobo World Nightmare is described as being a super-dimensional emotional space of love and romance in proportion to Rem being like ungodly superior to the Three Civilisations (who fought Bobopatchnosuke), and after the whole cast had already went on a training regimen at the Super Market where they were seeking to become infinitely more powerful.

Uhm, I'll get some scans, though. A moment.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Aeyu Not quite sure if matters of time and space having no meaning only majide, means it's higher dimensional, it could be a pocket dimension with special rules/attributes.

Not really sure about the super-dimensional stuff either, i think we usually don't think such things seriously without sufficent support evidence, and if the supporting evidence which is time and space having no meaning isn't legit, then we wouldn't take statements about super-dimensions seriously.

I am no expert in higher dimensions though, so idk, this could or not not be legit, we should get some staff here who can help out.

 

[Aeyu]

Within Majide Time, no space and time have meaning. That doesn't relate to Bo-bobo's abilities really.

I have the first scan which shows that MT is a spatial dimension (I'll show another one that shows that time isn't linear as well, but keep in mind that this is the show and the manga likely has a better explanation, and is probably what Hadou is gonna use)

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Majide Time https://imgur.com/gallery/dK1pD

No, like, literally, time and space have no meaning there, it isn't just empty words.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I also don't know why I uploaded that second screenshot, ignore that. xD

 

[Aeyu]

Yeah, I think this pretty much proves that it is both a higher space and time dimension. Linear time is considered to be the fourth dimension in manifold space, so if that is also affected and supplanted into a non-linear form (It's also stated that within Majide time, Bobopatchnosuke's form will last forever, when in realspace and time it's said to only last a moment) then this seems feasible.

 

[Aeyu]

Now we need the Super-Dimensional scans. @Hadou

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Super-dimensional moves https://imgur.com/gallery/9eAvE

This first one I just decided to put in there, it was Bo-bobo destroying Rem's Sleep World, which does have time and space, with just his aura.

Uhm, the next two were two occasions that super-dimensional was used in prefix to attacks regarding higher worlds that Bo-bobo creates to make the opponent release their soul. This is when the Three Civilisations are just absolute fodder by this point, and the Nightmare World is described as a "super-dimensional emotional space of love and romance" in the context that it is a space, and it is above dimensions.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

when that show about some guy fighting with nose hair suddenly get's low 1-C rating. I really need to watch this show lol

 

[Aeyu]

It's not because of the nose hair, though, it's because of the huge amount of absurd events that happen.

That being said, I don't have a problem with 1-C based on that scan, but more scans would be good

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

The Majide Time is actually an eyelash technique. The other attacks are nosehair techniques, though.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

It's not because of the nose hair, though, it's because of the huge amount of absurd events that happen.
That being said, I don't have a problem with 1-C based on that scan, but more scans would be good

yeah all this seems valid from the reasons he is giving, it was just a surprise

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

It's not because of the nose hair, though, it's because of the huge amount of absurd events that happen.

That being said, I don't have a problem with 1-C based on that scan, but more scans would be good

Actually, it's genetic. All of the five Hair siblings are stated to be able to create worlds that make the people within them release their souls. Even Hatenko can do that, and he's a much weaker Hair Citizen.

And what more do you need of scans? The rest of that attack is like them doing /stupid/ emotional things to destroy the evil within Rem. I could grab some more, perhaps, for the one used on Ujikin TOKIO, he sorts through several worlds before he resorts to the eighth phenomenon.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Looked over the scans, and still don't agree with what is being proposed.

Majide Time is a space dimension, don't think that makes it any different every other pocket dimension,people who can create pocket dimensions can create space, that's logical., so don't think it's any different, and we don't make people 4-D or above or anything like that for creating one. What's interesting though is that time doesn't flow there. So it's a dimension in which time doesn't flow, but i don't see anything about the size of the dimension or the dimension being higher dimension, just that words have no meaning within it.

As for the super dimensional stuff, could just be hyperbole, and it's again yet another pocket dimension, and also don't think we take such statements such as super dimensional as legit without sufficient proof.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Time does flow there. It is just non-linear.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Interesting, can i see a scan of that? Or are you referring to statement of 50 seconds taking a while in it?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

There is a clock. The time is Majide. Bobopatchnosuke lasts 50 more seconds in linear time, forever in Majide Time.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

> realises that they called the technique "Seriously Time" in the anime

My gosh. ^•||

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I mean words have no meaning only majide in it right, so logically you can't see what time it is from a clock, the only thing you see is majide, Bobopatchnosuke is a fusion i am assuming, and it would only last 50 more seconds outside of majide time, but inside it lasts forever, so means time in their is different from outside, so it's a pocket dimension of unknown size which has a different time than outside of it, still don't think that makes the characters higher dimensionsal.

Seems like a pocket dimension with special properties, such as time being different than outside it, and the only word with meaning being majide, rather than a higher dimensional space to me.

 

[Aeyu]

Except for the fact that it's not a realm, but a spatial dimension, as referenced above, added on top of space and time.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

It being a space dimension is still sort of not relevant as i have already said by defintion a pocket dimension which is what i think it is, would be a space dimension, and we don't treat them as higher dimensional.

And still don't see anything about its size or being higher dimensional, only some assumptions here. If it was stated to be a higher dimension than outside of it, in addition to being a space dimension, i would agree, but with what i have seen, i only think it's a pocket dimension with special features.

 

[Aeyu]

Except if a pocket dimension was blatantly stated to be a space dimension where space and time don't matter, which is imposed over the normal space, that would still count as being higher dimensional. You don't need a blatant statement about "4 dimensions," or "5 dimensions," in order to assume that a spatio-temporal dimension (s) are spatio-temporal. It's not written in a way which is just meant to convey a realm or dimension like is commently talked about in fantasy, which is divorced from the concept of space and time dimensions.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

It's just stated to be a space dimension, which is a pocket definition by definition, as creating a pocket dimension means you create a space separate from the one outside of it.

Don't see any statements of time and space not mattering in it, only that time in there differs from outside of it. Also at the very least you need proof of it being on a higher level than the space outside of it, statements of 4-D, 5-D and such aren't necessary but i don't see any proof of that here either.