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No is not weather the death star is dwarf star level is. you are using your own head cannon with zero regard when it gets debunked.Taking zero responsibility
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Death Star Possible Upgrade
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Sorry man will be better next time. just ban him is is an internent troll
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I haven't been debunked yet. You've yet to give me a reason to believe the Rebels, as a fleet, could obliterate the DS1 Superstructure, which was your claim.ByAsura said:
So what? a stray turbolaser wouldn't do meaningful damage to a moon-sized station.ByAsura said:
General Dodonna was referring to the Imperial Starfleet: not the Rebel forces.ByAsura said:
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Hello yes you have the more you talk the more of a debunked internet troll you are
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I was talking just about the magnetic field offering defense, which you agreed it does. In The Empire Strikes Back, the shield on Hoth prevented Darth Vader from landing or Star Destroyers from blowing the Rebels up, but not small fighters, so there are shields like that.
No he wasn't. They were literally in a meeting with the Rebels, he would have said imperial starfleet. The term has been used for both.
No he wasn't. They were literally in a meeting with the Rebels, he would have said imperial starfleet. The term has been used for both.
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No I didn't. Link the comment where I said it provides defense: the X-Wings literally fly right through it and YOU agreed that it doesn't provide defense in this comment here.ByAsura said:
No, he would not have, because the only starfleet referenced in the film id the Empire's. "Dangerous to your Starfleet, commander. Not to this Battlestation."ByAsura said:
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You are not and thank you for asking me that, I just want this crap to stop
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Either stick on topic or stop commenting. At this point you're just harassing Idzami for disagreeing.Enterprise NCC-1701-E said:
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XING06 had me added to the Knowledgeable Members list for Star Trek due to me clearing up some wiki-wide inaccuracies about phaser operation and backing them up with feats. @Enterprise wants me removed from it for my "behavior". He then mocked me by telling me sarcastically to "keep talking because everyone believes me".ByAsura said:
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Okey but he is being not agreeable and I am not harassing him more than any other. So is everyone else at this point if you can not be here just go away at least i am trying. I will no longer call for his banning but he needs better behavior or I will
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But you aren't trying. You're just spamming multiple messages calling him a troll and asking for an unwarranted ban. Just keep it on topic and stop throwing out insults. Applies to both you and @Idzami.
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Actually, this was a misunderstanding. I thought you were referring to the field. That was very early into the thread and I haven't had that opinion for quite a while because there's evidence that contradicts it. The Millennium doesn't go through it and they say its outer defenses not designed for small fighters, specifically showing the magnetic field as well as the turbolasers. But I guess one instance trumps two, even if it was somewhat of a bumpy ride.
They say starfleet because it's on their side. If the Rebels were referring to the Empire's fleet, they would have called it the Imperial Starfleet, like Luke does "Well, I'll be at the Academy next season... after that who knows. I won't be drafted into the Imperial Starfleet that's for sure... Take care of yourself, you'll always be the best friend I've got."
They say starfleet because it's on their side. If the Rebels were referring to the Empire's fleet, they would have called it the Imperial Starfleet, like Luke does "Well, I'll be at the Academy next season... after that who knows. I won't be drafted into the Imperial Starfleet that's for sure... Take care of yourself, you'll always be the best friend I've got."
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I am sorry should have been better. He was puting way more massges than i was at certian points. and having them be way too long
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Form now on I think you are misunderstanding I was not before now I am
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Qawsedf234 has specially requested Izdami and I to stop trolling and you are not doing any better than I am man so stop the crap and get on point or leave Thank Qawsedf234 for the advice
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Care to explain how the X-Wings casually went through a barrier that can stop star ships, then? Oh, and the magnetic field that kept out the Falcon was protecting the opening of the docking bay, not the whole station:ByAsura said:
The Death Star's exterior magnetic field didn't to jack to stop X-wings from casually flying through it:
The Battle of Yavin - Star Wars Original 1977 Version (Part 1)
That's two different magnetic fields.
Again, the only starfleet referenced in the Entire original Star Wars script is the Empire's. Everything from Luke's comments, to Han's comments, to the Empire's officers, to General Dodanna was referring to the Imperial Fleet.ByAsura said:
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X wings never went in to the death star only around it
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I'm getting really tired of this. Fine, I conceed that the outer defense and the cargo bay magnetic field might be different, but they literally explain why fighters go right through it in the movie, and even then there's some turbulance.
No, you've just cherry-picked one instance of someone calling the Empire Fleet a "starfleet" to make that assumption. Luke, someone who isn't affiliated with the Empire, calls it the Imperial Starfleet, and that's what any rebel would call it. Also, this term is completely replaced by just the word fleet in all movies, where they call it rebel or imperial.
No, you've just cherry-picked one instance of someone calling the Empire Fleet a "starfleet" to make that assumption. Luke, someone who isn't affiliated with the Empire, calls it the Imperial Starfleet, and that's what any rebel would call it. Also, this term is completely replaced by just the word fleet in all movies, where they call it rebel or imperial.
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ByAsura what should we do close this thread becase he is not contributing to the discussion. Nither could I say that myself 20 minutes ago. I was not being helpful then.
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What can I do to help sorry for the bad and hypocrite behavior
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Maybe we can come to a excellent ending
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I do not know how to do that can I have some help
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That explanation ("The Empire doesn't consider a small, one-man fighter to be any threat, or they'd have a tighter defense.") was talking about the turbolasers, which we see the X-wings evading. This is also noted by the Imperial Officer who spoke to Vader ("We count 30 rebel ships, Lord Vader, but they're so small, they're evading our turbolasers.") The turbolasers are the defenses being referred to.ByAsura said:
"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander, not to this battle station."ByAsura said:
"The entire starfleet couldn't destroy the whole planet. It would take 1,000 ships with more firepower than-"
"The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the starfleet."
From https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=star-wars-episode-iv-a-new-hope
All are referencing the Empire. That, and "heavily shielded" doesn't specifically mean "has a giant energy shield around the whole superstructure", since that problem was unique to the second Death Star...
Meeting-plan before the battle of Endor.mpg-0
...and that shield blocked fighters. Just like the shield on Scarif:
(Re-Upload) Rogue One A Star Wars Story - Space & Aerial Battle of Scarif Supercut HD-0
We can go around in circles on this forever, but the Death Star 1's magnetic field is clearly not the same as a proper planetary shield, nor even comparable.
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a Excellent planetary shield can withstand many large capital ships and battlestation for days or even weeks at a time they are incredibly difaclt to destroy when used right. Crealy the death stars electromagnetic field is not designed to stop starfighters.
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Agreed.
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I would appreciate if you please drop this subject and stop being argumentative.
"There are two worlds here," explained Lucas. "There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe—the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don't intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, (but) they do intrude in between the movies. I don't get too involved in the parallel universe. (...) I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world." - George Lucas
The "licensing world of the books, games and comic books" is the EU.
All I'm asking is for there to be separate keys for Star Wars ships: it's very obvious that the feats differ between Lucasfilm's actual output (The movies, The Clone Wars, and Rebels) and the comics.
@Idazmi
I would appreciate if you please drop this subject and stop being argumentative.
"There are two worlds here," explained Lucas. "There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe—the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don't intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, (but) they do intrude in between the movies. I don't get too involved in the parallel universe. (...) I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world." - George Lucas
The "licensing world of the books, games and comic books" is the EU.
All I'm asking is for there to be separate keys for Star Wars ships: it's very obvious that the feats differ between Lucasfilm's actual output (The movies, The Clone Wars, and Rebels) and the comics.
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I mean, there's an awfully huge difference between this:Antvasima said:
Thrawn Orders An Orbital Bombardment On Chopper Base - Star Wars Rebels Zero Hour
Bombardment of Chopper Base
And this:
Bombardment of Mon-Cala
Those are the same class of ship: Imperial Star Destroyer 1's. I personally think that's easily more than enough to justify a key divider.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial-class_Star_DestroyerAntvasima said:
I only see one, and not one of the feats listed are from the films or tv shows.
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Let's wait for Matt to be the judge of that, but I don't think it's necessary to distinct every scene. Most of the smaller scale explosions are often based on animator/editor limitations.
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Same.Antvasima said:
Ever also showed me proof that debunks the whole "EU was never canon" nonsense.
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Also Idazmi is continuously treating the lowest-end in the history of Star Wars as the standard.
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Idazmi has a youtube chanel not you sorry Anbt. He treats the lowest star wars power levels and the highest star trek power levels as complete god cannon with zero debunked required. Also you called him an internet trol
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