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Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Discussion Thread

ThePrimalHunter said:
Poor writing

They probably just used random b-roll footage of Wolverine killing people and called it a day without giving it much thought or realizing "we just used clips from Logan, that makes no sense"
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1. B-roll footage
2. Similar histories

Personally I think it's both because
1. It's heavily implied
but
2. There's just no simple explanation for him going through the events of Logan
 
I can only assume this Wolverine ended up fighting the Reavers several years earlier than in Logan (which took place in 2029), and the effects of the adamantium poisoning hasn't kicked in yet. He didn't seem to have encountered a Laura before either.
 
I genuinely don't think that scene's takeaway is anything other than "Hey this guy is VERY similar to that other guy everyone knows and loves"
 
I think the whole point of the flashback was just to say "This guy has a super simular past to OG Logan, but is a varient and has done diffrent stuff in his life" and isn't meant to be super analysed or anything

Either way, he's simular to his main FOX Universe self
 
Propellus said:
But that doesn't make sense though, if this variant did indeed go through the events of Logan, then why isn't he dying and he's perfectly okay?
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What if...? A single decision can lead to the creation of new universes. But there is still no certainty
 
Haven’t seen the movie yet and I don’t care enough about spoilers, but there there any characters aside from Deadpool that would be affected by Logan/TVA scaling?
 
Ghengiroo115 said:
Haven’t seen the movie yet and I don’t care enough about spoilers, but there there any characters aside from Deadpool that would be affected by Logan/TVA scaling?
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Most of the X-Men characters, Juggernaut could rip Deadpool in half easily in the 2nd movie and Colossus would scale, and in general most of the X-Men scale to Logan/Deadpool and would be effected by this bump in power
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
Most of the X-Men characters, Juggernaut could rip Deadpool in half easily in the 2nd movie and Colossus would scale, and in general most of the X-Men scale to Logan/Deadpool and would be effected by this bump in power
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What about any of the non X-Men film series characters like Human Torch (Though I heavily doubt he’s got any good scaling based on what I’ve seen floating about) or Blade?
 
Ghengiroo115 said:
What about any of the non X-Men film series characters like Human Torch (Though I heavily doubt he’s got any good scaling based on what I’ve seen floating about) or Blade?
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Human Torch has litteraly no feats other than surviving a large fall, which isn't anything above Wall level. He's already 8-C so that's not a bump at all. The 1 person he does attack, Pyro, effortlessly absorbs Johnny's flames and sees him as no match, so he's not scaling to Pyro at all

iirc all Blade does is kill a bunch of no-named henchmen, so unless he fights directly with someone that gave either Deadpool or Wolverine trouble, he doesn't scale, and neither would Electra or Gambit. X-23's claws are already Low 7-B so her cutting apart the Low 7-C Juggernaut makes perfect sense with the current scaling, and she likley wouldn't get much of a bump to her AP
 
But then again, I hated how the movie wasted Evans Johnny Storm like he was a complete joke considering how easily he got defeated and killed right away.
 
Ghengiroo115 said:
What about any of the non X-Men film series characters like Human Torch (Though I heavily doubt he’s got any good scaling based on what I’ve seen floating about) or Blade?
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Blade pretty quickly defeated Lady Deathstrike, who was shown fighting Wolverine for a few seconds earlier on. He also fought and defeated Azazel and Toad.

Elektra knocks down Deadpool in a brief scuffle before backing off, and later seems to briefly fight Callisto, but that's about it.

I don't think Gambit had any notable scaling or feats that would put him above Tier 9.
 
Dinobot1996 said:

Blade pretty quickly defeated Lady Deathstrike, who was shown fighting Wolverine for a few seconds earlier on. He also fought and defeated Azazel and Toad.

Elektra knocks down Deadpool in a brief scuffle before backing off, and later seems to briefly fight Callisto, but that's about it.

I don't think Gambit had any notable scaling or feats that would put him above Tier 9.
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Elektra also killed Quill. Gambit kills The Russian, but that doesn't effect his scaling at all
 
deadpool wank durability be like
tier 7 durability, tier 9 piercing durability
make sure to put that on the profile
 

How tf do people already have an HD rip of this movie

Are camrips this good these days? This is the clearest shit I've ever seen
 
Who said he was going to be 7-A?
 
I don't see any actual reason to not scale him to Low 7-C that isn't disbelief. As stupid as it is, the scaling is cut and dry. TVA goons can box with Loki and Sylvie, yada yada
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
I don't see any actual reason to not scale him to Low 7-C that isn't disbelief. As stupid as it is, the scaling is cut and dry. TVA goons can box with Loki and Sylvie, yada yada
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Pretty much this. The big problem is that FOX didn't portray their characters as all that powerful, but now that a new company is in charge of them, Disney can now portray them as powerful as they want, and in Disneys eyes, they're Loki level. It's not consistant with how FOX showed them, but new company, new power levels. We bumped the 9-B Andrew Garfield Spider-Man to 8-C due to scaling to MCU Spider-Man despite that being a big outlier at the time, we should do the same for the FOX X-Men

Also I've heard metas for 7-C FOX X-Men on Youtube even before Deadpool & Wolverine so maybe this isn't as much of an outlier as we think
 
If we consider going with Low 7-C scaling, we might want to reevaluate if the FOX X-Men movies have anything that might have previously been considered an outlier. Could Weapon XI's optic blasts be able to scale to Cyclop's full power?

Also, Deadpool and Wolverine is now the biggest R-rated movie ever:
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
I don't see any actual reason to not scale him to Low 7-C that isn't disbelief. As stupid as it is, the scaling is cut and dry. TVA goons can box with Loki and Sylvie, yada yada
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You’d have to prove these goons are equal to those goons, and Wade literally got mauled by a bear in Deadpool 2.
 
Fastestthingalive50 said:
You’d have to prove these goons are equal to those goons, and Wade literally got mauled by a bear in Deadpool 2.
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Anti-feats are a thing too, ya know. Thanos got hurt by a spaceship flying into him that likely wasn't any higher than 9-A, but we don't put him at 9-A because of that
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
Pretty much this. The big problem is that FOX didn't portray their characters as all that powerful, but now that a new company is in charge of them, Disney can now portray them as powerful as they want, and in Disneys eyes, they're Loki level. It's not consistant with how FOX showed them, but new company, new power levels. We bumped the 9-B Andrew Garfield Spider-Man to 8-C due to scaling to MCU Spider-Man despite that being a big outlier at the time, we should do the same for the FOX X-Men

Also I've heard metas for 7-C FOX X-Men on Youtube even before Deadpool & Wolverine so maybe this isn't as much of an outlier as we think
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Looking at this, I'd say 7-C Fox X-Men is pretty consistent
 
sanicspood said:
why would he need to prove that tva agent #6634436 is equal to tva agent #5232352? you're just coping atp lmao
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No way you watched Deadpool get ****** by regular guns and knives in his first two movies and thought “man this guy can tank a small nuke without healing.”
 
Fastestthingalive50 said:
No way you watched Deadpool get ****** by regular guns and knives in his first two movies and thought “man this guy can tank a small nuke without healing.”
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Again, you have no other proof than "I just don't believe it"

The X-Men are under a new company, so in all honesty their previous feats don't really matter much anymore
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
Again, you have no other proof than "I just don't believe it"

The X-Men are under a new company, so in all honesty their previous feats don't really matter much anymore
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Are you kidding, of course they matter, this is the same Deadpooo from the prior films. Plus, you can’t actually counter my arguments against his rating, it’s not that I can’t believe he could ever be that strong, but his feats blatantly contradict that.
Edit: I just realized, Deadpool has a ton of anti feats for him not being MHS+ like most MCU guys are (for some reason), like Cable’s bullets being able to blitz him, and being ****** by so many regular firearms in the past.
 
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Fastestthingalive50 said:
No way you watched Deadpool get ****** by regular guns and knives in his first two movies and thought “man this guy can tank a small nuke without healing.”
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this literally isn't an argument you're just in disbelief.

like if you REALLY want to go there we should just downgrade this deadpool to street level since he needs guns to begin with, along with his comic version as well.
 
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