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It's definitely PIS
But if you want maybe they could be rated as: At least 9-C/9-B, likely Low 7-C
But if you want maybe they could be rated as: At least 9-C/9-B, likely Low 7-C
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no it was not an imagination, re watch the movieAs far as I remember, it was just an imagine, because immediately after the scene the house appeared undamaged. So I think that would be an inaccurate scale to get the highest value.
It doesn't matter if it is a new variant because after the feat of L7-C in 2012 there is another timeline.I'm not 100% sure of this because TVA Loki is literally his Sacred Timeline counterpart plucked right out of 2012 but have we ever thought about downgrading both him and Sylvie to 9-C or 9-B since they're consistently at that level in the show. I can't think of a single time where they were in-line with Loki's usual Low 7-C strength. At the same time it could be chalked up to PiS but TVA soldiers having Frost Giant levels of strength still doesn't seem right to me.
To be fair, Deadpool did use adamantium weaponry to combat themI'm not 100% sure of this because TVA Loki is literally his Sacred Timeline counterpart plucked right out of 2012 but have we ever thought about downgrading both him and Sylvie to 9-C or 9-B since they're consistently at that level in the show. I can't think of a single time where they were in-line with Loki's usual Low 7-C strength. At the same time it could be chalked up to PiS but TVA soldiers having Frost Giant levels of strength still doesn't seem right to me.
Yes.Were the weapons Paradox gave Deadpool made with adamantium?
It'd be weird if we don't scale Deadpool and by extension Wolverine to the TVA soldiers imo. He's never presented as weaker than them and it would be strange if in actuality all the TVA soldiers Deadpool was mowing through in the opening were all a whole tier above him. I'd say him knocking around that one TVA soldier is enough for him to scale.Looking back, I don't believe Deadpool was ever truly shown harming any of the TVA soldiers in that entire fight scene without using adamantium. I think the closest he got was knocking around a TVA soldier with a couple kicks, but only after that soldier was stabbed multiple times with adamantium bones, including in the neck.
He also does swing Wolverines skull with enough force to one-shot one of them. Adamantium has great piercing abilities, but the blunt force attacks using adamantium would only upscale his own AP a bitIt'd be weird if we don't scale Deadpool and by extension Wolverine to the TVA soldiers imo. He's never presented as weaker than them and it would be strange if in actuality all the TVA soldiers Deadpool was mowing through in the opening were all a whole tier above him. I'd say him knocking around that one TVA soldier is enough for him to scale.
As I said before, the TVA training regimen just hits differentI'm not 100% sure of this because TVA Loki is literally his Sacred Timeline counterpart plucked right out of 2012 but have we ever thought about downgrading both him and Sylvie to 9-C or 9-B since they're consistently at that level in the show. I can't think of a single time where they were in-line with Loki's usual Low 7-C strength. At the same time it could be chalked up to PiS but TVA soldiers having Frost Giant levels of strength still doesn't seem right to me.
It's really annoying but there's genuinely no evidence for them not to be Low 7-C so I guess it's just one of those things you have to accept smhAs I said before, the TVA training regimen just hits different
He's definitely going to be acknowledged by this wiki, although he's literally just FOX Wolverine with Low 7-C and a degree of antimatter resistanceThis version of Wolverine is getting his own profile, right?
Are we sure that he's exactly like the FOX universe Wolverine though? We do see reused shots from the previous X-Men films when Cassandra Nova looks into his memories so it's possible that he shares a similar history but I don't think that's enough grounds for him to have all of his abilities and stats. Should he not just scale to his own feats?He's definitely getting a profile, although he's literally just FOX universe Wolverine with Low 7-C stats
See I would've thought that if not for the FOX X-Men flashbacks and the fact that the movie is a FOX X-Men love letterAre we sure that he's exactly like the FOX universe Wolverine though? We do see reused shots from the previous X-Men films when Cassandra Nova looks into his memories so it's possible that he shares a similar history but I don't think that's enough grounds for him to have all of his abilities and stats. Should he not just scale to his own feats?
Love letter or not I think him scaling to his own feats makes the most sense. iirc the flashbacks only show the Weapon X program which I don't think is enough to assume he's the exact same.See I would've thought that if not for the FOX X-Men flashbacks and the fact that this movie is a FOX X-Men love letter
I think the worst we can get away with is noting in his P&A section that he possibly/likely has the same abilities as his counterpart since they share similar histories
It's just a varient of him where he ended up getting some of the X-Men killed and fell into a depression. As far as we know, everything else about his life is identical to the main Logan we all know from the FOX MoviesAre we sure that he's exactly like the FOX universe Wolverine though? We do see reused shots from the previous X-Men films when Cassandra Nova looks into his memories so it's possible that he shares a similar history but I don't think that's enough grounds for him to have all of his abilities and stats. Should he not just scale to his own feats?
Well I ain't holding my breath on thisLove letter or not I think him scaling to his own feats makes the most sense. iirc the flashbacks only show the Weapon X program which I don't think is enough to assume he's the exact same.
Yeah but the Avengers also exist in his world so it's somewhat of a shot in the darkIt's just a varient of him where he ended up getting some of the X-Men killed and fell into a depression. As far as we know, everything else about his life is identical to the main Logan we all know from the FOX Movies
Only supporting evidence is when Cassandra Nova looks into his mind and the flashbacks use some of the old FOX X-Men footage.Does this wolverine variant have the same feats his dead counterpart has?
That's not confirmed though.It's just a varient of him where he ended up getting some of the X-Men killed and fell into a depression. As far as we know, everything else about his life is identical to the main Logan we all know from the FOX Movies
Yeah it's made pretty clear that the Logan we see in the movie comes from his own unique timeline, even though he might share some history with his FOX counterpart we don't know how much. Might be worth making a note of when we do make his profile.Yeah but the Avengers also exist in his world so it's somewhat of a shot in the dark
It quite litteraly is with the flashbacks of scenes from the OG X-Men movies, we know he shares memories with him up to at least the attack on the X-Men mansion in the 2nd movieThat's not confirmed though.
It's implied that it has been years since the killings happen, the Avengers could've been formed in his universe in that timeYeah but the Avengers also exist in his world so it's somewhat of a shot in the dark
Goes without saying. The real discussion is his P&AHe would still at least be tier 7 via his adamantium skeleton right? I see no reason for the metal to drastically differ.
Tbf I found a video of the flashbacks and went through them frame-by-frame. Turns out not only is there clips shown from Logan going into Weapon X but also the original X-Men trilogy and the Logan movie strangely enough? This does back up them sharing a similar history a lot more than I thought it, even with the differences in their timelines that are mentioned.
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Yeah gotta respect this movie being consistent with the FOX films and making things really convoluted when they don't have to be lmaoWtf he went through Logan 2017????
I'll assume that that isn't a completely literal depiction or else I'm gonna keep myself up at night wondering how he beat the anti-mutant foodYeah gotta respect this movie being consistent with the FOX films and making things really convoluted when they don't have to be lmao
But that doesn't make sense though, if this variant did indeed go through the events of Logan, then why isn't he dying and he's perfectly okay?
Literally this lmao I'm not gonna bother thinking about it more than the writers did.
But that doesn't make sense though, if this variant did indeed go through the events of Logan, then why isn't he dying and he's perfectly okay?
That Wolverine's:But that doesn't make sense though, if this variant did indeed go through the events of Logan, then why isn't he dying and he's perfectly okay?