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DE Sidious upgrade to "At least 4-B, Possibly At least 4-A, Potentially higher"

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He was described as "spreading his darkness completely and totally over the entire galaxy".

He broke apart the fabric of space.

He should be comparable to FOTJ Luke

He was called the most powerful dark sider ever

Furthermore, he achieved his full potential as the Sith'ari, the dark side equivalent of the chosen one therefore he should be comparable to full potential Anakin Skywalker as he is his evil counterpart.

Discuss.
 
That's influence, not power.

Hax, not AP.

Avsolutely not.

That's what makes him 4-B to begin with.

Good for him, that doesn't get an upgrade.
 
@The Everlasting:

That was a reference to his power.

There are 4-A dark siders as well.
 
The Everlasting said:
The Son is the literal embodiment of the Dark Side. Not at all comparable.
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Aka a dark sider.

Also, anakin was 4-a on Mortis and temporarily a darksider.

Abeloth is kind of a dark sider.


He spread his darkness completely & totally over the galaxy.
 
LordWhis said:
The Everlasting said:
The Son is the literal embodiment of the Dark Side. Not at all comparable.
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Aka a dark sider.

Also, anakin was 4-a on Mortis and temporarily a darksider.

Abeloth is kind of a dark sider.


He spread his darkness completely & totally over the galaxy.
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They are conceptual imbodiements of certain parts of the force. Sidious doesn't scale.
 
Even if it's literal it's not quantifiable, but as they said, it refers more to influence anyways
 
What about being the darkside equivalent of the chosen one ?

Also, fail to see how mortakin doesn't count as a darksider.
 
@Lord

Anakin only subdued the Ones by channeling the entirety of the Force flowing through Mortis.

He's much weaker than Sidious under normal circumstances.
 
LordWhis said:
What about being the darkside equivalent of the chosen one ?
Also, fail to see how mortakin doesn't count as a darksider.
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That's statement doesn't prove anything. Anakin actually was the chosen one and he's only High 6-A.

Who's Mortakin?
 
Reppuzan said:
@Lord

Anakin only subdued the Ones by channeling the entirety of the Force flowing through Mortis.

He's much weaker than Sidious under normal circumstances.
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Since we already use aleema keto with sith Corsair for exactly this purpose, I fail to see how it not being normal circumstances matters.

Also, abeloth probably counts as a darksider as well.
 
That's statement doesn't prove anything. Anakin actually was the chosen one and he's only High 6-A.

Who's Mortakin?

Anakin's full potential is 4-a.

Zonakin: tcw/rots Anakin when he reaches a state of focus and is able to perform at a much higher level than normal (seen against dooku)

Mortakin: the above but when further amped by mortis
 
LordWhis said:
Reppuzan said:
@Lord

Anakin only subdued the Ones by channeling the entirety of the Force flowing through Mortis.

He's much weaker than Sidious under normal circumstances.
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Since we already use aleema keto with sith Corsair for exactly this purpose, I fail to see how it not being normal circumstances doesn't matter.

Also, abeloth probably counts as a darksider as well.
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The son is literally the physical embodiement of the darkside. Palpatine is the most practiced user of the dark side. No matter how much he practices he will never surpass the very embodiement of the thing that gives him his power in the first place. Same with how Luke could never hope to surpass the ones. He might be the strongest user of the force but the Ones are the force itself.
 
This and the other thread Whis made about SW made should be discussions rules with an insta permaban and close thread upon bringing up.
 
Dark649 said:
This and the other thread Whis made about SW made should be discussions rules with an insta permaban and close thread upon bringing up.
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Now you are just being mean.

Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you permaban me.

That's just... well Dark brah !
 
@Whis

"As a Force-Wielder, The Daughter is far superior to any Jedi or Sith in terms of Force Manipulation, which should put her far above Aleema Keto commanding the power of Naga Sadow's Corsair, Jerec when tapping into the Valley of the Jedi, and Master Yoda."

We don't.
 
Actually Whis is right in this regard.

We do consider Luke to be slightly above the Son and Daughter and possibly both combined.
 
@Gargoyle

Doubtful.

If that were the case, then every Sith Lord below Sidious in power scales to the Ones.
 
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