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DCU General Discussion Thread
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So… in the latest episode of the Peacemaker podcast, Gunn not only says that Green Lantern could fight Superman, he doubles down on the idea (48:30 - 48:39). It’s not totally clear if he’s referring to the DCU or the comics, but I feel like the former makes more sense? And if that is the case, that’s a buff to Guy’s scaling, and probably Hal Jordan as well, once we get to Lanterns.
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christ that first episode is nuts
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I've been watching Peacemaker Season 1 for the first time to catch up with everything, and I'm honestly very mixed on it. I like the characters, I like the plot, and I like the themes. But it's also the most unabashedly James Gunn production I've ever seen. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but Christ man some of this dialoge is just too much. It feels like the actors are just riffing for 10+ minutes at a time, and when it works it's fun, but sometimes it really doesn't land.
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Considering the context is Green Lantern (Guy as its implied) vs Peacemaker its definitely a DCU oriented question, I'd say its enough at least to put a possibly 8-B+ on Guys page
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Sounds good to me.
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Would Metallo also scale to possibly 8-B+ too because that would make the rest of the Justice Gang scale as well right?
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DCU Peacemaker needs a separate profile. Same for the other characters from his series (which I think is only Judomaster at this point, but the rest of the 11th Street Kids and White Dragon definitely need pages).
I think the best way to do that would be to go back through Season 1 (and TSS), update the existing Peacemaker profiles and create ones for the other characters to represent their DCEU incarnations, and then duplicate those profiles while adding anything from Season 2 to represent their DCU incarnations.
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There's Vigilante, as well. But his page seems a little low effort. I was kinda surprised White Dragon didn't have one already, though. Not that I'm exactly jumping for joy about having to make a page for a white supremacist, but it seems like a lot of scaling ties back to him, and his tech is kind of insane (relative to the rest of the characters in the show, at least).
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Well shit yeah now that you mention it
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Now that I’m thinking about it, would ‘at most 8-B+’ be more appropriate? Considering that we know Superman is the most powerful metahuman, Guy should downscale a bit.
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Yeah it'd also fit the Engineer being at most 8-B too
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I don't think the downscaling from Superman should really contradict anything, as while Superman is intended to be the most powerful metahuman, James Gunn has made it clear that Superman isn't supposed to be so much more powerful as to make other heroes such as Green Lantern appear meaningless (he doesn't finish his sentence about it, but he also seemed to imply that Superman wouldn't be able to easily punch through Lantern constructs)
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Somehow was more level headed and less filled with hate, thus was less reckless with his invention....And that character was neo-nazi. Which just goes to show you just how ******* insane of hater Lex Luthor was
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Well Peacemakers dad had far longer time to work the kinks out while Lex just went with what worked instead of refining the portals because it would be a insult to presume he didn't get it right in the first try.
And unlike Luthor who created a brand new universe, this seems more or so using the existing stable inter universe space that even other species use.
And unlike Luthor who created a brand new universe, this seems more or so using the existing stable inter universe space that even other species use.
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Being more hateful than a neo-nazi is wild.
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I wasn't saying it as a critique of the verse, just to be clear. But you're absolutely right that telling him that it might be flawed would just piss Lex off.
Besides for all we know, given that using it in this way is meant to be bad thing and part of Peacemaker's arc in the Season, White Dragon's tech could absolutely be revealed to have it's own fatal flaw.
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More*
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That's what I meant, I just woke up like 10 minutes ago. Sorry
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Yeah Lex is a horrible boss. Not just because he is evil but because even if you spot a mistake in his design, you better keep quite and glaze it if you want that paycheck.
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Yep, you try to tell him how dangerous his pocket universe tech is and you'll be sure to get a first hand look at it.
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gunn just randomly answering lore and production stuff is really great
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A combination of having a hyperactive mind and being terminally online.
Jokes aside though, it is very nice that he's willing to clarify stuff.
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one of my fav comic youtubers made it, got a shoutout by james gunn, thats a big W
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Gunn implies hawkgirl killing the world leader will have ramifications outside of just the superman movie
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Man Nathan Fillion seems like such a cool dude.
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Nope we don't know what of blue beetle will be salvaged and Gunn said he doesn't want a planet busting Superman so like we have to wait for the BB animated series on the DCU to come out to see what they reference to to know that its canon
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That locks out so many of Superman's great battles and feats. That's like making Hercules unable to lift the heavens. And since Superman is going to be stuck at this scale everyone else is also stuck. Can't wait for building level Antimonitor and Darksied.
Funny how this is the same guy who just gave Rocket a moon destroying gun.
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Eh I mean we've already got 8-B+, Class G, and MHS+ in movie 1 of the DCU that's not a bad start and you don't NEED a tier 5 Superman to tell great Superman stories, most Superman never even touch tier 5 and usually cap at either tier 7 or tier 6 which like imma be real I'm pretty sure we're easily hitting at least tier 7 in either Lanterns or Supergirl but that aside even who knows maybe down the line he will be more open to more cosmic feats.
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I assume that if Superman does get tier 5 scaling in the future, it'd probably be through something temporary like sundipping.
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I am talking about the future. What makes DC DC, is the cosmology. It's not like he can skip entities like Parallax, Anti Monitor or Darkseid. I am certain we will get a lot of stuff for new gods.
Plus James Gunn isn't the only one writing. Also a part of what makes a comic a comic is it's spectacle. Let's be honest no one here picked up old DC cartoons or Ben 10 or Transformers or DBZ because of deep stories. We picked it because was cool as hell.
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The best you could get right now is High 6-B through Metamorpho’s sun, and just hope that Supergirl has good feats in her movie.
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