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Yeah its weird that this hasn't been applied yet. They need to have the likely changed to possibly and their LS's changed a bit.
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DCEU Downgrade
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I'm also unsure of whether the speed upgrades were applied
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Speed upgrades have there own thread at the moment I believe, so for now its better to ignore them.
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Of course
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I suppose that this seems to make sense, but you should use the DC Extended Universe verse page and the Knowledgeable Members List to find more staff members to ask to comment here.
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Supposedly it was debunked although I can't see where.
I'd also note it's entirely possible Themyscira is higher if we consider JL's portayal of it and the fact Zeus may have used Matter Manip to create it.
I'd also note it's entirely possible Themyscira is higher if we consider JL's portayal of it and the fact Zeus may have used Matter Manip to create it.
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Hence why I say may (I forget who originally made the case but I saw it)
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Yeah, I'm the one who brought up problems with this calc.
It actually isn't brought up out of the water, it's already formed by the time we see it in the magical picture book. Zeus is also using the same hand beam he used to make people, which should be Matter Manipulation. And the biggest problem is actually the size and shape, since it's using the stylized book depiction with its cone shape and an inaccurate made-up size, instead of using the actual island's triangular prism-esque shape and obviously much larger size, as we see in a clear view of it here in Justice League. The Amazon city alone is probably at least the original calcs purported size, and the actual island looks like it could match Metropolis or Gotham in size, which is pretty appropriate.
The smaller islands surrounding the main island also seem to have been made by Zeus since we see them in the storybook. We see it's where the barrier is formed, and the water looks like it continues to be shallow all the way up to where Steve crashed his plane, which is pretty close to the islands. I think this makes the part of the island under the surface extend even further than the main island, which should also make it much larger.
It actually isn't brought up out of the water, it's already formed by the time we see it in the magical picture book. Zeus is also using the same hand beam he used to make people, which should be Matter Manipulation. And the biggest problem is actually the size and shape, since it's using the stylized book depiction with its cone shape and an inaccurate made-up size, instead of using the actual island's triangular prism-esque shape and obviously much larger size, as we see in a clear view of it here in Justice League. The Amazon city alone is probably at least the original calcs purported size, and the actual island looks like it could match Metropolis or Gotham in size, which is pretty appropriate.
The smaller islands surrounding the main island also seem to have been made by Zeus since we see them in the storybook. We see it's where the barrier is formed, and the water looks like it continues to be shallow all the way up to where Steve crashed his plane, which is pretty close to the islands. I think this makes the part of the island under the surface extend even further than the main island, which should also make it much larger.
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^^
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I think @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFa is doing a recalc, though I haven't mentioned the larger island structure below the surface to him.
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I think I've said this as well but I suggest KE as a low end and reverse vaping as a High End
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bump
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DontTalkDT says the High 6-C end of the Karathen feat is better.
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I agree with the downgrade considering even Matt said the 6-B and Class Z lifting strength feat was exaggerated and that the High 6-A rating was too inconsistent, and the High 6-C calc seems legit FRA.
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The Class Z and 6-B rating should be removed either way.
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I looked at that thread, and Zeus's Low 6-B calc appears to have been rejected.
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I have read the whole thread. Matt also addressed the 10 second timeframe combined with reverse vaporization being iffy.
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If we're keeping the "possibly Class Z" thing then Post-MB Superman should still have his lifting strength key changed to "At least Class M, possibly Class Z"
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Why are we going to keep them at Class Z ?
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It is from the 6-B calc
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It doesn't really specify which plate and how big, or how much it's shifted or how fast (It takes a lot less force to slowly move something across the ground as opposed to pick the thing up) so it wouldn't really apply no matter how it's sliced
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Where is the 7-A calc, anyhow?
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Pushing is still considered lifting strength. We scale from the entire weight of the tectonic plate.
Like if you lift something slowly or lift something quickly it doesn't affect your lifting strength according to our current rules.
Like if you lift something slowly or lift something quickly it doesn't affect your lifting strength according to our current rules.
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