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So… The Presence tier 0 with divine simplicity?
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Yes yes trueSo… The Presence tier 0 with divine simplicity?
That's just Vertigo Presence: Yahweh. To whom his physical form was retroactively shaped by beliefs. It really doesn't affect him at all, it just shows what humankind can do. On a lesser note, the Divine Presence is 0.Pretty sure the “shaped by external forces” thing is an anti feat even if he qualifies for everything else
The immediate takeaway is that the Source was shaped [into existence] by belief.
Source origin story and understanding were shaped. That's really all there is, they didn't “create” it. Belief/hope/magic/dreams only go so far.A friend reminded me of this scan, what do you guys think?
The immediate takeaway is that the Source was shaped [into existence] by belief.
Yeah. What must be remembered is that humans believe in the gods so they exist and that the gods believe in the Source so the Source exists. However, since Source was there since the beginning, as this ocean of energy flowing through all creation, it would make sense that gods' beliefs would only shape the origins around it.A friend reminded me of this scan, what do you guys think?
The immediate takeaway is that the Source was shaped [into existence] by belief.
Both. When Lucifer enters the Void in the location called the “Heart of Eternity” he tells us that each heartbeat(Creation dying) is a cause of one Creation’s death and another to take its place. Since the Void lacks time, everything in that space is simultaneous thus there's always a Creation.Quick question about Vertigo’s cosmology: does the Lucifer Void hold 3 creations (Lucifer’s, Elaine’s, and Yahweh’s), or infinite creations?