Undertale scaling (Big update)

[Oikarian]

This is a substantial piece of work that has undergone a major update; I hope you find it interesting to read and will share your thoughts—its scope truly warrants careful reading and genuine interest. And most importantly, don't forget to share your opinions and thoughts; this will help clarify where the scale falls short.


UNDERTALE COSMOLOGY

Undertale Cosmology - scaling

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1. General durability, AP, DC: ??? or At least likely Low 1-C: Low Complex Multiverse level

2. General speed: ??? or At least likely Immeasurable (Fast enough to move where there is no time and space)

3. General immunity and resistance: Cytotoxic immunity: Supermolecular regeneration (the body structure weakens the energy of radiation, and the free radicals themselves, even if they damage DNA, the molecule rebuilds itself into a normal state) | Corrosive immunity: Immunity to protoanemonin | Vacuum resistance

4. General abilities and hax: Magic physical ability (Fire magic works like fire, ice magic works like ice, sound magic works like sound, and each magic has its own possible weight since light can knock on a door), Partial body control (Useless in 1v1 situations but quite useful as a support and in confined spaces, the ability only works after death if the dust settles on the enemy), save-reset-file (Only one soul can have this ability, all souls < soul; the variable that will be greater will have the power of "save"),the ability to manipulate code (Only one soul can have this ability, all souls <<<<<<<< soul; variable, which will be many times larger, will have the power of "complete control of the world"), erasing the world (Only one soul can have this ability, all souls <<<<<<<< soul; variable, which will be many times larger, will have the power of "erasing the world"), conditional immunity to erasure (Although the object erases everything, it is also capable of erasing itself if it wants to).

5. General immortality: Immortality type 1: Only monster bosses | Immortality type 3: Low-High level (Any substance, even with radiation, when taken orally, also through sleep, and through determination and dream) | Immortality type 3: Mid-High level (The condition is a huge amount of determination) | Immortality type 4: The "Reset" function revive the user back to life after they find themselves in a different timeline | Immortality type 4 through type 8: The soul or dust continues to live for the characters; resurrection occurs if the object has determination, for example, a flower with determination absorbed dust and resurrected Asriel, or Frisk, having determination, absorbed Chara dust.

6. Undertale cosmology: Low 1-C: Low Complex Multiverse level | All objects are durable (The weapon stick does not burn in hotland and easily finishes off Pyrope, there are quite a lot of such items, although the stick has weak statistics)


SANS

Sans is actually strong

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A strong dungeon monster should be stronger than Undyne and perhaps even Asgore, but will be weaker than Papyrus or equal to him, also Sans is weaker than True Genocide Chara, True Pacifist Frisk, and Asriel.

1. Manipulation of space and time: Teleport, space expansion, space compression, portal and time stop.

2. Manipulation of gravity: Telekinesis and gravity alteration.

3. Support attack: Platform | Karma: Poison ignores regeneration, karma also ignores invulnerability, causes great fear, perhaps Sans's aura frightens enemies, damage becomes diseases if sins become more and more (While the KR effect is in effect, any enemy's intervention will also be subject to the karma effect).

4. Abilities and hax: Dodge, ability cancellation, data analysis (able to discern lv and kills despite the fact that we can change the game code and affect this fact), font changes.

5. Cognitive + EIQ: An extraordinary genius (he can analyze data, but this does not mean that he can determine everything, every time Frisk is killed, he can read her emotions and tell how many times she died, which also adds to his clairvoyance).


PAPYRUS

Papyrus is actually strong

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His strength should be higher than Undyne and perhaps Asgore, he should be considered the strongest monster in the dungeon, but weaker than True Genocide Chara, True Pacifist Frisk, and Asriel.

Special buffs: Recovery stamina: high | Fatigue resistance: high

Ability: Healing magic, Likely Gaster Blaster, likely non-physical interaction attack (through date love power), radar (not passive ability), data analysis (the ability to see emotional tension and the number of crimes via the interface)

Gravity manipulation: Telekinesis, gravity manipulation, changes body weight to heavy and light, levitation and gravity distortion.

Weapon: Magic pencil, he drew a mountain range in the background that was indistinguishable from reality.

EIQ and Knowledge: Genius.

 

[DuckyMcLucky]

Hello, just read through your blogs but I still have some questions.

(also was the blog translated from a different language? it would explain the odd phrasing sometimes and this block of Russian)

Cosmology Blog:

Spoiler: Undertale Character Basic Powers

What do you mean by this quote? How would an oven being able to reach 9000F explain the intense temperatures of Hotland and Snowdin?

Why did you bring up a Deltarune fight? Also, how does it relate to the MTT oven feats?

For this quote, I would like to say that I was not able to find any proof of any food evaporating in Hotland (I only found food not evaporating, like Sans's hotdogs and the spider food). I'm assuming you're referring to the water cooler room, though. If you're trying to say that Hotland is so hot that the stick should be spontaneously combusting, then I don't think that's correct. The only time something evaporates is the water filled cup you get from the water cooler at the start of Hotland. Although the cup evaporates, it should be noted that the cup is magical and weird, as when you leave the room towards Waterfall, the cup of water somehow returns to the cooler. If you leave and reenter the room quickly with the cup, the cup is described as "being erased by a mysterious force". About the Pyrope statement, sticks in real life are able to quicky hit/go through fire. It's like the same reason people can quickly move their hand over a candle flame.

Could you explain exactly what "dimensional box" you're talking about here? Are you talking about the battle box?

I do not understand the reasoning behind this at all. Are you trying to say that the battle mechanics stopped Sans from destroying the Last Corridor and also stopped the explosion from destroying Undyne's house? But you said earlier in the same section that you don't enter any dimension when going into battle.

This whole section just describes how human bodies work along with information about radioactivity.

The first paragraph describes "free radicals" and how the human body deals with them. A normal human body. I don't think we necessarily need to add this to the profiles. You also make the claim that this immunity would apply to all Undertale characters. Even if the immunity was important in combat, it wouldn't really be able to be applied to all Undertale characters, as not all of them are shown going into Hotland. The next paragraph goes over UV rays. It assumes because there is ozone, there also must be UV rays. This is wrong, as human technology can create ozone. You then describe radiation. I won't go into detail here, as it doesn't matter too much. The next explains how this is further evidence for "free radical immunity". I don't think that Frisk not showing any immediate signs of damage from the waste is much of a feat as. 1. it's never stated how radioactive the waste is, and 2. Frisk is barely exposed to it.

For the immunity to protoanemonin: I don't see why this would apply to all Undertale characters? Only a couple characters interact with the buttercup flowers.

"Frisk exists where there is no time and space, lost souls also belong to this, they are located where there is an absolute vacuum." I don't think vacuums can exist if time and space don't exist? Feel free to correct me on this.

This section claims that Undertale characters have 50 chromosomes and that they can create nutrients from radiation? What? The food healing thing is odd, but it can easily be explained through determination shenanigans, but explaining it like this is just straight headcanon and speculation.

This section talks about the specifics of Asriel being resurrected into Flowey. Firstly, Chara did not get turned into dust. Secondly, I don't think this would be Type 8 Immortality? It's never stated that they're still alive when they're turned to dust. This would probably just be Type 4. I also don't think this would qualify for Type 3, as Asriel was not "regenerated". His mind was put into Flowey. (there's also mention of "Chara's dust", but you also mention it in the next section, so i'll save it)

This section has some false information in it. The section says that Frisk "absorbed Chara's dust". This has never been shown in Undertale and is false. Humans do not turn into dust, and Chara was not cremated, so there also isn't even dust to absorb. You later come to the conclusion that because Frisk has some of Chara's memories, we also have all of their skills. First off, that is a large jump. Secondly, what skills? I don't think Chara is ever shown to have any proficiency in any specific skill.

This section feels more like an Undertale theory than anything else.

Spoiler: The incredible power of souls

There is an insane amount of headcanon in this section of the blog. The entire color AND rainbow soul sections are just theories, similar to NarraChara or Sans writing some of the entries in the True Lab.

The next section, "5D monsters and reality manipulation in the Undertale world", is kinda odd. It claims that monsters have determination, which is incorrect. It also claims that Frisk has the same abilities as Omega Flowey, and that changing code is diagetic and part of Frisk's powerset. This is headcanon. The most likely reason for Flowey being able to do all of this reality warping is because he absorbed 6 human souls. Frisk only has one.

"Asgore has enough soul power. His soul is strong enough to rival Flowey's." Flowey doesn't have a soul???

"Chara is stuck in the void" What void?

"Of course, I didn't delve into the details of the scan, but I did notice that Frisk sometimes gets names mixed up. It's interesting. It's a special coded name confusion. For example, Frisk will say "Snowdrake," but next time, they'll accidentally confuse it with "Chilldrake."" This is a bug. It is not meant to be part of the story.

"The first thing I want to say is why are all of Frisk's stats so normal? Why did Toby bother changing Asriel's stats and leaving the 8 ATK code, but he was too lazy with Frisk? It's really easy to just put an infinite number and set 20 HP in the code, but all of Frisk's stats are normal, def, ATK, and HP are all at the normal level." It's just how Toby designed the game. They're also consistent with his later showings, which you also mention.

"It might be interesting to see how Titan is assigned the level of the solar system" What?????????????? Could you elaborate?

Spoiler: Undertale cosmology

"Afterwards comes an explanation about the true reset, that is, a complete reset of the world, which always happens when we completely complete the neutral, pacifist, and genocidal endings." Bit nitpicky, but it isn't necessarily talking about a True Reset. He's likely referring to Chara destroying Undertale at the end of the run.

"and then he says that it is us and he is right, what he was told us really matches our ability if we think theoretically." Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't he referring to Flowey here? Sans still says this dialogue even if Frisk hasn't SAVED, LOADED, or RESET.

The rest of the section doesn't really show how the cosmology would scale to Low 1-C. It mentions the Many Worlds Interpretation, but Undertale is never implied to work under that structure of reality. A cosmology based on the Many Worlds Interpretation would also only scale to 2-A.

Sans is actually strong:

Spoiler: Sans knows much more than we imagine.

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This entire section doesn't really have anything to do with how strong Sans is, so I won't be talking too much on it.

Spoiler: Sans powers and abilities

"There is always a hidden motive in his words; his words "bad time" are very similar to "bed time" and indeed, right in front of us, he starts to sleep..." What.

"What we need to know is that Sans says he didn't give it his all, so it's useless and pointless for him." This is a gross misinterpretation of his dialogue. This specific line is referring to his day to day life, and not the current battle. This is made clear when he says that he "can't afford not to care anymore" three lines later.

The soul power section relies on your color theory.

"Flowey trembles during his speech and this is understandable, karma inspires fear because of this Flowey trembles when Sans is around." This assumes that the theory that Sans lived is canon. Otherwise, Sans is very much dead in this scene.

"There is a dimensional box, which clearly indicates Sans's name in the code, now you will have no doubt about it. He literally built this chest with the help of his magic, so Sans can expand and narrow space." This also could easily just be a box that is in a area that is associated with Sans that was removed.

The Gaster Blaster section is entirely a theory and never confirmed.

There's not much for the Papyrus blog. A large majority of the "Papyrus knows many things" section is theory and headcanon. For his abilities section, the only one that would be usable would be the magic control part, and the weird jump he does is just canon.

I hope I didn't come across as rude in this reply! Thanks for putting work into these and posting them!

 

[Oikarian]

Hello, just read through your blogs but I still have some questions.

(also was the blog translated from a different language? it would explain the odd phrasing sometimes and this block of Russian)

Cosmology Blog:

Spoiler: Undertale Character Basic Powers

What do you mean by this quote? How would an oven being able to reach 9000F explain the intense temperatures of Hotland and Snowdin?

...via the MTT mark—which is rated at 9,000 degrees and explodes at extremely high temperatures...

Why did you bring up a Deltarune fight? Also, how does it relate to the MTT oven feats?

Deltarune is usually linked to Undertale through Sans and Papyrus, but we haven't seen that shown yet, so you can dismiss that point.

For this quote, I would like to say that I was not able to find any proof of any food evaporating in Hotland (I only found food not evaporating, like Sans's hotdogs and the spider food). I'm assuming you're referring to the water cooler room, though. If you're trying to say that Hotland is so hot that the stick should be spontaneously combusting, then I don't think that's correct. The only time something evaporates is the water filled cup you get from the water cooler at the start of Hotland. Although the cup evaporates, it should be noted that the cup is magical and weird, as when you leave the room towards Waterfall, the cup of water somehow returns to the cooler. If you leave and reenter the room quickly with the cup, the cup is described as "being erased by a mysterious force". About the Pyrope statement, sticks in real life are able to quicky hit/go through fire. It's like the same reason people can quickly move their hand over a candle flame.

I don't recall writing that all food burn out—only a specific subset of them.

Could you explain exactly what "dimensional box" you're talking about here? Are you talking about the battle box?

I do not understand the reasoning behind this at all. Are you trying to say that the battle mechanics stopped Sans from destroying the Last Corridor and also stopped the explosion from destroying Undyne's house? But you said earlier in the same section that you don't enter any dimension when going into battle.

I usually highlight aspects like this because Undertale features structures imbued with magic—for instance, Undyne’s house can "cry" (it’s strange, but the house seems capable of feeling pain), or there are unique items like the magic-infused stick that neither burns nor breaks, and living dummies that aren't inhabited by ghosts. There are many such fascinating objects, which might explain why massive destruction doesn't occur during battles—even when Sans uses telekinesis to shake the screen.

This whole section just describes how human bodies work along with information about radioactivity.

1. Usually, the talk here is about radiation, but if you look at it that way, you could calculate the properties of a liter of uranium—based on the ordinary bottle handed over by the dog-monster—and estimate the radiation levels; furthermore, a liter-sized bottle of uranium would trigger a thermal reaction reaching 1,000 degrees or more—yet what’s surprising is that the monsters call this bottle a "vitamin." 2. This feat isn't just about regeneration, but about repairing any kind of damage. For instance, our bodies simply cannot repair a broken DNA molecule; instead, the body tends to delete and copy it, often resulting in errors. Monsters, however, achieve this perfectly—unlike us, who would require advanced genetic manipulation (like the "Barrow Scale 2.0" technology) to withstand such radiation (though anti-radiation drugs for the 2030 moon mission are already in development), the monsters of Undertale have no need for that. So, it’s not regeneration, but simply a clever molecular structure—which is precisely why I called it "supramolecular regeneration."

The first paragraph describes "free radicals" and how the human body deals with them. A normal human body. I don't think we necessarily need to add this to the profiles. You also make the claim that this immunity would apply to all Undertale characters. Even if the immunity was important in combat, it wouldn't really be able to be applied to all Undertale characters, as not all of them are shown going into Hotland. The next paragraph goes over UV rays. It assumes because there is ozone, there also must be UV rays. This is wrong, as human technology can create ozone. You then describe radiation. I won't go into detail here, as it doesn't matter too much. The next explains how this is further evidence for "free radical immunity". I don't think that Frisk not showing any immediate signs of damage from the waste is much of a feat as. 1. it's never stated how radioactive the waste is, and 2. Frisk is barely exposed to it.

Ordinary monsters—such as "Knight Knight"—can interact with the Hotland core; however, Snowdin monsters cannot, simply because they are not adapted to high temperatures.

For the immunity to protoanemonin: I don't see why this would apply to all Undertale characters? Only a couple characters interact with the buttercup flowers.

Chara interacts with the flower, as do Asriel (who brings it), Asgore (who ate the pie—the buttercup pie in Chapter 1 of Deltarune is likely a reference to this), and Toriel; human: growing this flower is a common and beloved pastime, suggesting people like it—which explains why Chara chose a spot filled with buttercups. However, the flower only grants immunity to the skin; ingesting it provides slight resistance—as seen when Asgore ate the flower and got a stomachache but did not fall into a life-threatening condition, demonstrating that he has some resistance to it.

"Frisk exists where there is no time and space, lost souls also belong to this, they are located where there is an absolute vacuum." I don't think vacuums can exist if time and space don't exist? Feel free to correct me on this.

I hadn't thought about that; indeed, if there is no time or space, then there is no matter—the kind that would normally appear in a vacuum. But since this is an absolute vacuum, I can't really say whether it contains a vacuum or not. So, think what you like; I hadn't given the matter aspect any thought.

This section claims that Undertale characters have 50 chromosomes and that they can create nutrients from radiation? What? The food healing thing is odd, but it can easily be explained through determination shenanigans, but explaining it like this is just straight headcanon and speculation.

That is exactly what a chromosome is—you might be missing something here, but a gene represents an adaptive capability for surviving in hazardous environments. For instance, Homo sapiens acquired a gene for high heights adaptation that prevented blood stagnation, and we inherited that gene from them. In any case, look at the movie Doom: the character has a 24th "perfect" chromosome that grants him special abilities. Granted, from a metaphysical standpoint, it is fiction and shouldn't be analyzed too seriously, but I included it as a sort of biology exercise, so I did take all the scaling factors seriously. This is just training so that in the future i'm know it well.

This section talks about the specifics of Asriel being resurrected into Flowey. Firstly, Chara did not get turned into dust. Secondly, I don't think this would be Type 8 Immortality? It's never stated that they're still alive when they're turned to dust. This would probably just be Type 4. I also don't think this would qualify for Type 3, as Asriel was not "regenerated". His mind was put into Flowey. (there's also mention of "Chara's dust", but you also mention it in the next section, so i'll save it)

If you're talking about the dust—I don't think I ever said Chara's dust disintegrates quickly; human bodies in Undertale actually persist for a long time. That was in reference to human souls, which endure for a very long period—though they can shatter like boss monster souls, they last much longer. It's the same situation with Chara: a hundred years have passed, and her body is still preserved, but some of the dust lies where Frisk fell. Somehow, Frisk's Determination absorbed the dust—much like how the flower that gained Determination resurrected Asriel, With each kill, Determination increases, and Chara gains more and more control over the body. In Asriel's case, the flower was not a living being but an ordinary object; however, where Asriel died, the flower absorbed his dust and brought him back to life. This process only works if the object possesses Determination, and the flower had acquired it through Alphys's experiment—which is precisely what led to the creation of Flowey.

This section has some false information in it. The section says that Frisk "absorbed Chara's dust". This has never been shown in Undertale and is false. Humans do not turn into dust, and Chara was not cremated, so there also isn't even dust to absorb. You later come to the conclusion that because Frisk has some of Chara's memories, we also have all of their skills. First off, that is a large jump. Secondly, what skills? I don't think Chara is ever shown to have any proficiency in any specific skill.

I think I explained how Chara appeared in this part?

This section feels more like an Undertale theory than anything else.

There is an insane amount of headcanon in this section of the blog. The entire color AND rainbow soul sections are just theories, similar to NarraChara or Sans writing some of the entries in the True Lab.

This part is just a joke and a funny moment—though, in all seriousness, I still have plenty of questions about the rainbow soul, but it’s not worth the attention.

The next section, "5D monsters and reality manipulation in the Undertale world", is kinda odd. It claims that monsters have determination, which is incorrect. It also claims that Frisk has the same abilities as Omega Flowey, and that changing code is diagetic and part of Frisk's powerset. This is headcanon. The most likely reason for Flowey being able to do all of this reality warping is because he absorbed 6 human souls. Frisk only has one.

I couldn't quite translate that specific part, but I'll explain the sequence of events anyway. Before Frisk arrived, Flowey held the power to Reset; however, once Frisk appeared, Flowey was baffled because he had lost that ability. He attributed this to the fact that Frisk's Determination was stronger than his own—Frisk essentially usurped Flowey's power simply because her Determination surpassed his. The dynamic works like this: Frisk's soul > Flowey's essence of Determination. In the case of a "True Reset," however, the disparity is massive: Frisk's soul >>>>>>> Flowey's essence of Determination. A True Reset seems to occur only when there is a colossal difference in Determination levels.

"Asgore has enough soul power. His soul is strong enough to rival Flowey's." Flowey doesn't have a soul???

I don't recall a monster boss soul being all that stronger from a blob of Determination; the only thing about Asgore that involves Determination is his red trident—which makes sense, given that red represents Determination—and he uses it to shatter the Mercy button. In any case, Asgore's determination is many times weaker than Flowey's.

"Chara is stuck in the void" What void?

In the void where she erased the world, the human realm remained unchanged; judging by what Azriel said in the Ruins, Chara desires to destroy not only the monsters but the human world as well—which explains Chara's appearance in the True Pacifist route. I actually explained all of this in detail—the key is to read slowly and carefully. Sometimes questions arise about things I’ve already explained thoroughly, yet people ask about them anyway.

"Of course, I didn't delve into the details of the scan, but I did notice that Frisk sometimes gets names mixed up. It's interesting. It's a special coded name confusion. For example, Frisk will say "Snowdrake," but next time, they'll accidentally confuse it with "Chilldrake."" This is a bug. It is not meant to be part of the story.

I didn't quite catch what you meant by that, or perhaps you're just pointing out a funny moment.

"The first thing I want to say is why are all of Frisk's stats so normal? Why did Toby bother changing Asriel's stats and leaving the 8 ATK code, but he was too lazy with Frisk? It's really easy to just put an infinite number and set 20 HP in the code, but all of Frisk's stats are normal, def, ATK, and HP are all at the normal level." It's just how Toby designed the game. They're also consistent with his later showings, which you also mention.

I’ve explained in detail why those stats are fake; Flowery mentioned something similar about fake stats in Deltarune. Yes, it’s a different world, but I took that into account—the Lost Souls became much weaker and lost certain abilities; it’s clear that since they lost their souls, they lost their powers too. but possibly we saw it in the future Undertale Hard Mode. However, that doesn’t mean Asriel is weak; Asriel possesses the most powerful soul in the Undertale world. Even if an enemy has stats of 9999 and you have 1, the strength of the soul is what decides the outcome—it’s an ability that allows you to control the game. Look at Sans, for instance—how he dodges; he might not have even been fully serious during the fight.

"It might be interesting to see how Titan is assigned the level of the solar system" What?????????????? Could you elaborate?

I’d actually forgotten about that part; I was thinking of removing it and adding it back later, once Toby Fox reveals the connection between Deltarune and Undertale.

"Afterwards comes an explanation about the true reset, that is, a complete reset of the world, which always happens when we completely complete the neutral, pacifist, and genocidal endings." Bit nitpicky, but it isn't necessarily talking about a True Reset. He's likely referring to Chara destroying Undertale at the end of the run.

Honestly, I really don't feel like giving that explanation, since most of the questions are already answered in the "Scale" section; just read it carefully—twenty times if necessary—and keep reading until you understand. I’d rather not explain things that are already clearly covered there. Please try to keep your questions brief; the translation process is already difficult enough for me.

"and then he says that it is us and he is right, what he was told us really matches our ability if we think theoretically." Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't he referring to Flowey here? Sans still says this dialogue even if Frisk hasn't SAVED, LOADED, or RESET.

Try not to ask questions about the scale of things—though I’ll explain this just once: Sans is a theorist; from his perspective, things might look different, and his reasoning is sound for a theorist. But Flowey is a different story—he used to control the Reset and knows its mechanics. People consider Sans’s views, but they overlook the facts regarding Flowey. Since Sans is merely a theorist, there’s no point in taking his words as absolute fact; besides, Reset users change, meaning a Save overwrites the previous user's data and allows a new user to save their own progress.

The rest of the section doesn't really show how the cosmology would scale to Low 1-C. It mentions the Many Worlds Interpretation, but Undertale is never implied to work under that structure of reality. A cosmology based on the Many Worlds Interpretation would also only scale to 2-A.

I really don't want to argue about this topic because the answer is obvious and because of the lack of widespread knowledge of physics (I hope it didn't sound rude, but it's just annoying) 2—just read up on Kaluza-Klein theory. If you want to prove a "2-A" rating for Undertale, you would need to establish the total number of timelines (even the number of 1000 time with theories MWI Kaluza Klein is still 5D); however, the dialogue only depicts movement between timelines—specifically Frisk and other "Reset" users traversing them infinitely, along with the existence of Goner worlds. In any case, you would need to prove the presence of metaphysics within the context of the Many-Worlds Interpretation (MWI), whereas Undertale currently operates based on the quantum physics of MWI and Kaluza-Klein theory.

I hope I didn't come across as rude in this reply! Thanks for putting work into these and posting them!

For now, let's stick to Undertale cosmology, but I’d like to hear your thoughts on Papyrus. What I’m pointing out isn't just a theory, yet I keep having to argue the point simply because no one reads carefully; people only grasp it at the very end—after lengthy explanations and a huge waste of time. Please read carefully and try to use some logic to see how everything connects.

 

[Oikarian]

Undertale Cosmology - scaling

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@DuckyMcLucky

I updated it and tried to make the context clear so there would be no questions, I will also update Sans