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If it's not too much trouble, can you post statements for both of these?And it's backed up by multiple FTL statements. Even Raditz has an FTL statement let alone Frieza's death beams.
Wasnt it dub only or somethingPiccolo said it after Raditz dodged his first special beam cannon; a likely hyperbole, but it's actually a very well known statement.
Piccolo didn't say that.Piccolo said it after Raditz dodged his first special beam cannon; a likely hyperbole, but it's actually a very well known statement.
In order of appearance in the story.If someone can list in order every profile that needs to be updated in a bullet point format, I can take care of the edits. Preferably in weakest to strongest.
It was only in the English DUB.Piccolo said it after Raditz dodged his first special beam cannon; a likely hyperbole, but it's actually a very well known statement.
It doesn't even mentions light speed here
Thanks for the hard work.Working on them right now
Considering you didn't provide these statements I'll assume it's not backed up by anything, except personal biase.Going from Relativistic to FTL+ is the same jump as going from Relativistic+ to Massively FTL just with a better initial feat. And it's backed up by multiple FTL statements. Even Raditz has an FTL statement let alone Frieza's death beams.
If anything DBZMLP12345 should do it if they are free.Going to need to pause for a moment, something urgent came up, so someone else is going to need to update the Universe 2-11 cast.
Also DBS Vegeta during BoG, since that was before his Training with Whis obviouslyIn order of appearance in the story.
Master Roshi
Chiaotzu
Krillin
Yamcha
Tien Shinhan
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Piccolo
Yajirobe
Raditz
Saibamen
Jaco
Appule
King Kai
Son Gohan
Nappa
Guldo
King Vegeta
Vegeta
Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon
Nail
Recoome
Burter
Jeice
Captain Ginyu
Frieza
King Cold
Future Gohan
Future Trunks
Android 19
Dr. Gero
Android 18
Android 17
Android 16
Cell
Cell Jr.
Yakon
Kibito
Shin
Dabura
Majin Buu
Gotenks
Vegito
Son Goku (Chou)
Vegeta (Chou)
Goku Black (Chou)
Many if not most characters in Universe 2, Universe 3, Universe 4, Universe 6, Universe 9, Universe 10 and Universe 11.
Since the GAP is logically same & Ryu proved how that works I will assume its you don't have any supporting evidence against those Arguments , except Personal biasConsidering you didn't provide these statements I'll assume it's not backed up by anything, except personal biase.
I don't think you know how this works.Since the GAP is logically same & Ryu proved how that works I will assume its you don't have any supporting evidence against those Arguments , except Personal bias
It was Rel to FTL+
It was accepted
The calc is like 5x upgraded now
So its now Rel+ to MFTL
Simple
Also Saying its wank or shouldn't be that much from a single feat is headcanon btw
You provided only the Death Beam statement, which doesn't help your argument, it's not Speed of Light and was rejected as being such.
@SSJRyu1You provided only the Death Beam statement, which doesn't help your argument, it's not Speed of Light and was rejected as being such.
The Raditz statement also doesn't exist. (anime only, dub exclusive)
The conclusion to this is that DBZ has no support for such speed ratings, which you claimed it had but failed to provide said support.
I'm unsure why people are talking about Death beams being light speed. And I'm unsure what @Slacjow is looking for. I wasn't involved in that discussion and it should be saved for another thread most likely. The currently accepted multipliers seem to have been applied though, so once a rule is made clarifying that the Kaioken speed multipliers, and SSJ1 50x speed multiplier are accepted as valid on the site as discussed above, the thread can be closed.
Medeus: Do you have any suggestion for a rule text?I'm unsure why people are talking about Death beams being light speed. And I'm unsure what @Slacjow is looking for. I wasn't involved in that discussion and it should be saved for another thread most likely. The currently accepted multipliers seem to have been applied though, so once a rule is made clarifying that the Kaioken speed multipliers, and SSJ1 50x speed multiplier are accepted as valid on the site as discussed above, the thread can be closed.