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Why is Anilaza listed as At least 3-A for doing 3-A feats? This is ridiculous.
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DBS Episode 127 Upgrades
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I think that's a remnant of the "Anilaza >> SJ2 Kefla" wank.
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@Matt
You're missing the point. Why do people always misconstrue what I say? I'm speaking/writing clearly.
Vegeta, transformation or not, did not show Low 2-C feats until Toppo yet he was upgraded a few episodes before.
I also didn't say I have a problem with the gap. I said Ultima and Ven do (and rightfully so). And come on really Matt? "If you don't like it, don't debate it". You'd never say such things. Tells me you're frustrated
You're missing the point. Why do people always misconstrue what I say? I'm speaking/writing clearly.
Vegeta, transformation or not, did not show Low 2-C feats until Toppo yet he was upgraded a few episodes before.
I also didn't say I have a problem with the gap. I said Ultima and Ven do (and rightfully so). And come on really Matt? "If you don't like it, don't debate it". You'd never say such things. Tells me you're frustrated
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@Aeyu
That's literally the appeal to hypocrisy fallacy transcribed.
That's literally the appeal to hypocrisy fallacy transcribed.
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Durability=AP.Kepekley23 said:
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Dw guys. Im sure at least Gohan Blanco is stronger than 17. So there, 1 form of gohan who can beat 17.
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Let's analyze Anilaza's AP, shall we?
"Was overpowering SSJB Goku, who had broken his limits twice"
Who is only 3-A in SSJB at this point and only Low 2-C with SSJB Kaioken x20 onwards
"SSJB Vegeta"
3-A feat.
"Golden Friez"
3-A feat.
"a full powered Gohan and 17 in a beam struggle"
3-A feat.
"Beerus also stated that its ability to bend space through sheer power was unbelievable"
That means he surpassed Beerus' expectations, nothing else. He praised Goku's power all the way back in Battle of Gods.
So yeah, At least 3-A Anilaza is going too.
"Was overpowering SSJB Goku, who had broken his limits twice"
Who is only 3-A in SSJB at this point and only Low 2-C with SSJB Kaioken x20 onwards
"SSJB Vegeta"
3-A feat.
"Golden Friez"
3-A feat.
"a full powered Gohan and 17 in a beam struggle"
3-A feat.
"Beerus also stated that its ability to bend space through sheer power was unbelievable"
That means he surpassed Beerus' expectations, nothing else. He praised Goku's power all the way back in Battle of Gods.
So yeah, At least 3-A Anilaza is going too.
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@Kep
lol
Matt's acting like he's never heard of this before, when he was one of the biggest supporters of this.
It's not a fallacy, and don't start being condescending.
lol
Matt's acting like he's never heard of this before, when he was one of the biggest supporters of this.
It's not a fallacy, and don't start being condescending.
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How are you skipping what matthews doing in this thread. Like for real?Antvasima said:
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Don't get needlessly mad at me for pointing out fallacies in your speech, my dudette.
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I said this is relation of people not wanting Low 2-C Ultra Instinct and stuff. But now it reached this level of wank and some anvils had to be dropped.AKM sama said:
If 17 raged enough and transformed into Super Park Ranger 17 I would be fine with the upgrade.
Not base 17.
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Obviously. Dbz on the other hand? No. Yeah dura=AP within dbz always has.
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I merely point the ridiculousness of the opponent's argument through analogy, showing how going from 3-A to Low 2-C with no explanation or power up is as legitimate as a 9-B becoming 3-B with no power up or explanation.
Aizen straight up is just trolling.
Aizen straight up is just trolling.
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Hasty generalization.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Durability in Dragon Ball is 100% dependant on your Ki. See Laser Blast. If you have less ki available your durability is lower.
Some characters are tanks instead of equal durability. Freeza has higher durability than AP, as he survived the explosion of Namek after being bisected in half, and then receiving a full-power Kamehameha from Super Saiyan Goku, who trashed him before.
Some characters are tanks instead of equal durability. Freeza has higher durability than AP, as he survived the explosion of Namek after being bisected in half, and then receiving a full-power Kamehameha from Super Saiyan Goku, who trashed him before.
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The fact that you bring up Matt's past endeavours is a literal transliteration of the fallacy of appeal to hypocrisy. I have the right to point out fallacies in your speech. That's not being condescending. You're not above such things.
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every other series has similar problems, but its fans aren't unreasonable.
I know for a fact because you don't try to make every Sailor Scout 2-C.
I know for a fact because you don't try to make every Sailor Scout 2-C.
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Uh what. Litterally never been the case with dbz.
Freeze has equal dyra with AP.
Stamina not durability. Yeah durability is dependent on ki yeah then again AP on the other hand is dependent on ki kinda just like durability.
Freeze has equal dyra with AP.
Stamina not durability. Yeah durability is dependent on ki yeah then again AP on the other hand is dependent on ki kinda just like durability.
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I agree as well, obviously, but we obviously can't give it special treatement and make every 3-A character Low 2-C. As the Low 2-C feats are done through people who are far, far, far stronger than the ones who did the 3-A feat.
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The fact that DBS writers don't recognize it doesn't mean we shouldn't regulate when to upgrade a character.
Outliers exist and we should evaluate each instance in a case-by-case basis instead of sloppily slapping "Low 2-C" on every character that puts a scratch on Jiren's boots.
Outliers exist and we should evaluate each instance in a case-by-case basis instead of sloppily slapping "Low 2-C" on every character that puts a scratch on Jiren's boots.
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@J-Man
You are welcome to argue as to why he doesn't have higher durability than AP which I literally just listed the most absurd durability feat in all of Dragon Ball and it comes from him.
You are welcome to argue as to why he doesn't have higher durability than AP which I literally just listed the most absurd durability feat in all of Dragon Ball and it comes from him.
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This thread should be closed and the upgrade denied, preferrably a rule against it as multiple staff members agree it is an outlier.
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On a totally different note, NF/OBD also recognises 17 as being current SSB tier, nearing hakaishin tier and >First UI Goku tier using his self destruct.
Not saying it is right or wrong. Just putting it out there.
Not saying it is right or wrong. Just putting it out there.
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