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DMUA, Rapid, stop trying to derail this thread which meaningless posts or attempts to lit up drama. Thank you very much.
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Did you not literally tell that to everyone on discord that was indeed the reason this was happening?Matthew Schroeder said:DMUA, Rapid, stop trying to derail this thread which meaningless posts or attempts to lit up drama. Thank you very much.
If it was truly travelling, why would they need an avatar? There's no explanation for anything like "No one can travel between dimensions on their own" or anything of the like, Occam's Razor tells me it'd be a lower world like is blatantly stated.Matthew Schroeder said:The first just says "Dimension transfer", meaning travel between dimensions via technology.
The second looks like a google translate of a twitter post, with no link to the original source or context behind it.
The third scan is just Demigra affecting two universes with his Dark Energy. The world of the Dragon Ball characters, and Beat's world. That's literally just 2-C.
The rest is just trying to use Heroes stuff to upgrade Xenoverse, which doesn't scale. Heroes isn't canon to Xenoverse, but Xenoverse is canon to Heroes.
Do you think every single living breathing thing in Gwen Poole's universe is Tier -1. Because all of Marvel Comics is fictional to them? What about every single living breathing thing in Superboy Prime's universe?RapidMotorcycle19 said:Wait, if the Dragon Ball Heroes arcade machine is on the "real world", it literally means it transcents the Dragon Ball heroes universe.
K. I think we would also need better scans of the avatars and fictional perspective then.RapidMotorcycle19 said:
No, only countless. And nope.Leogian4511 said:Is the DBH Multiverse considered infinite, as in having an infinite number of possible timelines? If so wouldn't that make the Real World infinitely above the DBH multiverse since DBH is just a video game to them that can be stored on arcade cabinets?
Well... the possiblities are endless... but not all of them actually exist, as shown when Demigra was basically blowing up the multiverse by flooding it with manifested possibilities, I believe.Leogian4511 said:Is the DBH Multiverse considered infinite, as in having an infinite number of possible timelines?
Understand something. One universe being fiction in another =/= This universe being infinitely transcendent over the other. It could, most likely, be just parallel worlds.RapidMotorcycle19 said:I think Gwenpool should really be above most Marvel top tiers because the story literally doesnt affect her all.
But thats another story.
No, not at all. They would still be parallel universes. It's just that by the sheer numerical possibility, their fiction would be identical to our reality.Leogian4511 said:That doesn't seem like a proper analogy. Let's take one of those worlds where ours is a fictional setting, that means in comparison to us, the real beings of that world should be infinitely superior.
It's not the real world. It's another dimension, meaning another universe, where Dragon Ball is fiction. The characters there are not infinitely more real. In fact they are weaker in their world since Beat is just a normal, powerless kid who only gains powers when he enters the Dragon Ball fictional world.RapidMotorcycle19 said:Yeah, but if a villian is literally affecting the real world, which is 100% outside the DBH multiverse, i think that it is a clear cut High 2-A.
False. It has a Dragon Ball Heroes Arcade Machine, like our world has, where normal 10-B kids play a fictional game about fictional characters. The metafiction is followed to the letter means all of DBH is 2D.RapidMotorcycle19 said:DBH Real World has a literal ARCADE MACHINE that has the entire DBH multiverse inside.
If that isnt transcending, i dont know what is.
This was unwarrented.RapidMotorcycle19 said:Do you really want to do anything in your power to keep Dragon Ball from being High 2-A?
Well... it's not really an established mechanic and nobody really transcends from Mario to Animal Crossing. It's more just a cameo.Matthew Schroeder said:That's a complete false equivalency. Nobody argued that Animal Crossing should be Tier 1 because they can play Mario and Zelda.
That's what the evidence suggests, yes. Just like how A blind idiot god is more powerful then Eldrich abominations with phenomenal cosmic power.Matthew Schroeder said:Do you think that microscopic bacteria from Beat's world is infinitely above Zeno?
Does it really mean anything in the story, though?RapidMotorcycle19 said:You can literally buy a NES and play Mario on it.
RapidMotorcycle19 said:No, DaBig.
Her PHONE would be High 2-A.
Fine, CONTACTING the Player. Even then, I have more examples, like Batman and Bat-Mite.