DB Toei and DBS Lifting Strength scaling

[Vizer04]

Dragon Ball Toei: Lifting Strength scaling​

Kid Gohan = 1.12510471e+15 kg (Class P)

Saiyan Saga Goku = 1.12510471e+15 kg

KKx4 Goku = 4.5004188e+15 kg

Ginyu Saga Goku = 4.5004188e+15 kg

KKx10 Goku = 4.5004188e+16 kg

Post-Zenkai Goku = 4.5004188e+16 kg

SSJ Goku = 2.2502094e+18 kg (Class E)

Buu Saga Goku = 2.2502094e+18 kg

SSJ Goku = 1.1251047e+20 kg

Base Gotenks = 1.1251047e+20 kg

SSJ Gotenks = 5.6255236e+21 kg (Class Z)

Dragon Ball Super: Lifting Strength scaling​

Base Goku = 55,509 T (Class M)

SSG Goku = 2,775,450 T (Class G)

Base Goku = 2,775,450 T

SSB Goku = 6,938,625,000 T (Class T)

KKx10 SSB Goku = 69,386,250,000 T

SSB Goku = 69,386,250,000 T

KKx20 SSB Goku = 1.387725e+12 T (Class P)

 

[Vizer04]

@FluffyCreatureZ

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

...
Downplay. They are multi-stellar lowballing, immeasurable if we're being reasonable.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FluffyCreatureZ/Dragon_ball_lifting_strength

 

[Thelastmlg]

Oh god oh ****, toeiverse and super can now lift small celestial bodies.

Anyway, i disagree because ssj4 goku struggled lifting a city and GT goku > super goku

 

[Urshani]

i agree

 

[Nullflowerblush]

i just love abusing multipliers yum
the math checks out, but ehhh

 

[Orange]

I agree.

i just love abusing multipliers yum
the math checks out, but ehhh

And how exactly are we abusing accepted multipliers and scaling?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I agree.

And how exactly are we abusing accepted multipliers and scaling?

Well he's got a point, it's very doubtful when you can get calculations that the characters can lift stars and shit but they can barely lift buildings in the actual show.

 

[Nierre]

Then I disagree.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The amount of extra evidence one has to provide to get larger multipliers accepted is proportional to the size of the multiplier. For lower multipliers, like things much less than times 100, evidence can take the form of a clear increase in combat strength against priorly equal or superior opponents. For higher multipliers, like times 100 and above, the importance of stronger evidence, such as feats displaying power of a similar magnitude as the value the multiplier points to or the multipliers importance to the plot of the story, and a higher amount of evidence becomes increasingly necessary.

The Toeiverse has impressive Lifting Strength feats of its own to maybe back up the use of multipliers, but Super does not.

 

[StekFence]

Well he's got a point, it's very doubtful when you can get calculations that the characters can lift stars and shit but they can barely lift buildings in the actual show.

This problem would be solved if these strong chars got strong feats not related to punching

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

This problem would be solved if these strong chars got strong feats not related to punching

We really need to see Ui Goku lifting planet moro in the anime. Or moro throws a planet or something just any good LS feat to give these ratings any credibility.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

I agree with this, but what about DBS manga? You should also scale it.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Bump