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Dark Souls 6-B issue.

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Cape isn't a problem here. The clouds are shown to be dispersed and dragged around so it would stay as a kinetic energy calc. When it comes to the distance I'm pretty sure it was actually calculated and not just the generic horizon, which is why the distance so huge in the original calc.

If the horizon really should be 20km I'll be fine with a recalc but it definitely is kinetic energy and not cape since the storm was dragged in and dispersed away rather than formed on the spot.
 
The problem is literally the horizon calculated. You can't use a massive distance like that one used, it it contradicts our Cloud Calculations page.
 
Then I wish the op would have explained that rather than just saying it has a problem. Since I now know what the problem actually is then I'm perfectly fine with a recalc.

(Also sorry if the comment comes off as rude)
 
A calc group member commented there saying why the calc is wrong tho.

You wasn't rude
 
He didn't explain that we can't calc horizons, just that we use 20km. Now that you've explained that we just don't calculate the horizon it makes much more sense now.
 
Should the thread be moved to Content Revision Threads board? Looks like it's going to be a revision of the verse.
 
Asked an admin to move the thread.

Ah, I don't think I'm good as a calcer. Can you leave the calc request there? Alternatively you can also contact the calc group members directly.
 
There are two calc group members supporting the verse,I informed one that the calculation is wrong,he commented there.
 
The distance is 20000m and the thickness is 9900m.

  • Volume: 10000^2 * 9900 * ¤Ç
  • Volume: 3.1101767e+12 m┬│
The density is 1.003 kg/m┬│

  • Mass: 3.1101767e+12 * 1.003
  • Mass: 3.1195072e+12kg
Timeframe is 2.867s

  • Speed: 10000/2.867
  • Speed: 3487.96651552 m/s
Now the energy

KE: 3.1195072e+12kg*3487.96651552^2*0.25 KE: 9.4879113e+18 Joules or 2.26 Gigatons (Large Mountain level)
 
Using 20 kilometers at most is dumb since the orizon extends far beyond that depending on the height of the observer is at
 
Cloud Calculations

"On clear days (no rain, fog or snow) the visibility is about 20km. On very clear days it can be around 50km and on exceptionally clear days even 280km. On slightly hazy days it can also just be 10km.

The standard value to use is hence 20km. Higher or lower values can be used if there is a reason for it."
 
M3X said:
The distance is 20000m and the thickness is 9900m.
  • Volume: 10000^2 * 9900 * ¤Ç
  • Volume: 3.1101767e+12 m┬│
The density is 1.003 kg/m┬│

  • Mass: 3.1101767e+12 * 1.003
  • Mass: 3.1195072e+12kg
Timeframe is 2.867s

  • Speed: 10000/2.867
  • Speed: 3487.96651552 m/s
Now the energy

KE: 3.1195072e+12kg*3487.96651552^2*0.25 KE: 9.4879113e+18 Joules or 2.26 Gigatons (Large Mountain level)
to be honest this makes sense considering this little fella laying right outside of the namless king boss fight https://im0-tub-by.yandex.net/i?id=fce6498b726fb4648ab1e036d0baf580-l&n=13
 
What are the conclusions here?
 
There are plenty of supporters for the verse who can handle everything so I am unsubbing from this.
 
That is probably a good idea. Feel free to contact him.
 
I'm fine with the recalc, but one could certainly argue for 50 km in this particular instance, namely because Archdragon Peak (where this feat happens) is quite literally above the lower clouds in the game (here, here, and here).

I'm fine with the recalc though, I actually talked about it on Discord with a couple of the others some time ago. Has it been put into a blog yet? If not then it should be.
 
In that case let's just put in a value for 50 km as well.

Assuming a distance of 50000m

  • Volume: 25000^2 * 9900 * ¤Ç
  • Volume: 1.94386e+13 m┬│
The density is 1.003 kg/m┬│

  • Mass: 1.94386e+13 * 1.003
  • Mass: 1.94969158e+13 kg
Timeframe is 2.867s

  • Speed: 25000/2.867
  • Speed: 8179.9163 m/s
Now the energy equates to...

KE (Assuming it expands omnidirectionally): 0.25*1.94969158e+13*8179.9163^2= 3.261396827904507756127255e+20 J (Island level+)

KE (Assuming it's just pushed): 0.5*1.94969158e+13*8179.9163^2= 6.528e+21 J (Large Island level)

Guess Dark Souls ain't leaving Tier 6 anytime soon.
 
Not for clouds, we had a revision for that as well, DT changed it.

Or does the cloud moving feat not involve expansion? If it doesn't then the usual 0.5 can be slapped on.
 
DS gets knocked down to 6-C based on Bambu's suggestions.

But if the clouds are simply pushed away and not expanding (Which in this case simply looks like it's being pushed away), Large Island level since you can just get away with using normal KE.
 
I'd personally be fine with "At least 6-C, likely High 6-C" since, judging solely from the video, it doesn't seem really clear.
 
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