Its only NLF when the power you are implying to adapt against is far too broken or to different from what you had encountered first.
The plot part.
we could. considering that's what reactive evolution does? he has shown the ability to develop resistances for things that he's never seen before. whats the difference in this case?
you make it sound like plot manip is superior to every other ability by default that's not the case. it's an ability like any other. it's just very obscure and because of that few have resistance to it. stop glorifying plot so much
the basis of any Reactive evolution is literally to gain resistances to hax the user has never faced before so IDK why you keep insisting on that
No one is saying plot hax is the strongest nor do we assume it to automatically be superior to everything else. It's in a totally different vicinity and specific feats are required to avoid NLF. That's how things work: feats, it's simple as that.
huh? No. RE doesnt just apply to resistances it could apply to AP, hax, speed etc.
it's really not. has this plot manip ever affected 9D concepts that are > type 1? judging by what i've read so far it does not. also on what basis is it NLF? or an assumption for that matter? that is what the ability does. it gains resistances based on what's used on them. Dante had never encountered the Demon worlds haxes before and he adapted to them no problem. so why are we assuming he cant do it here? because he never faced plot before? well he didn't face the demon worlds stuff before either and he still adapted to it. can somebody explain how NLF would apply here?
on what thread? and what type of RE are we talking?
There are lots of question threads search it on the forum obv I'm not gonna bookmark it, as for matches, Dante vs Alucard match, Dante cannot get resistance to his plot mani It was considered as nlf, Anos vs Dante match ended up stomp as well because Dante cannot re anos 99 layers of hax and, This whole thread in the first three pages is filled with one cannot re or adapt to something they haven't shown. Rimuru re let him have resistance to all his skill including the likes of cm 1( that time it was 3) , info mani but it was considered nlf that he could do the same thing to 99+ layers of cm. It is like saying you can create any ability even outside your p&a section if you have skill creation.
The point isn't what Dante know, but what the series presents to us
not really? Reactive Evolution requires the user to survive what ever the hell he's adapting to first. he does not create the ability or the resistance to it out of thin air.
yeah no whoever did that match was wrong on that fact. dante's RE can add layers of hax like CM,Soul and info..(pretty much everything that anos has execpt maybe for EE) as well as resistance to it. if dante survives long enough. he'll adapt
basically useless for our case
i remember that. i dont think anyone attempted to use RE to argue that dante can surpass alucards plot hax IIRC
how is the verse's general hax relevant in this? cus even if plot hax was a thing in the verse. it'll be completely useless because their arguments would still apply. IE dante still has not faced plot shit before. does not matter what his verse has in this situation.
you do know it affects (puts an end to) other stories including Shiro-the last story which is 9D
You seem don't get my point at all, or that you just nitpicking. If DMC has ever shown plot hax in verse, and it is shown to have at least the Epilogue's level of potency, then Dante would have a good chance of adapting it since he has adapted to the verse top-tier hax. I would be totally convinced on one more condition that Souls hax in-verse is treated at least comparable to said plot hax.
Have to say I'm really not in favor of bringing up past VS matches but whatever, I could just say that with the evidence proving her AE I have brought it is just insignificant. Especially when you look closely in the thread, the person who made the blog that contains ''Final Story'' stuff himself wasn't voting anything, he said that Shiro couldn't possibly do anything to Yang Qi cuz of that Acausality 5 + (10) layers Nep 2 + Transdual *****, which is absolutely true considering the feats.
If you had just read the whole thing you would know that I could have straight-up said that the Epilogue would just end Dante as no one in Dmc has yet shown feats to regenerate from narrative destruction. Which I didn't as I'm well aware that the ability is very easy to have things out of hand, so I actually did limit and be generous about him coming back from the Epilogue. The rest of your post is answered as above
so ye, she ain't bypassing that that's for sure
That one is easy to answer. As you could obviously notice before we only have 1 collective brain cell and I have control of it for 90% of the time. So things only happen when I can do it :v
i remember that someone said shallow can erase the history of dante and sth like that,so yeah acau type 4 will help here a little bit,
"Acausality is the ability to act unrestrained by conventional cause and effect, on a scale that varies depending on the character."
you can interact aca type 4 since they're technically still exist, it's just they're resist the conventional causality manipulation, and Shiro's hax is anything but conventional, most of her hax is CM type 1 based, and it was already established that plot hax can indeed affect aca type 4
No, the LN one is only possibly low 1-C, we're using the WN one
