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prove what?
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Anos Vs Rimuru (Again)
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Then make a better argument rather than information>concept which is wrong in blatant way for this case.
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On rimuru case it is, I'm not sure about Anos
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i mean,it's like 99+ layer of resistance ,yeah it's type 3 but
he still can negate someone that can regenerate from being loled after his fundamental aspect destroyed ,that's the point
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No matter how potent they're type 3 is type 3. There's a reason why there's 4 type of conceptual manipulation.
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still not affecting the hgr layer of resistance tho
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I mean, there has layers of it, a higher layer of type 3 can easily negs a lower layer of type 3
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That's literally not how concepts works, you're saying X resistance can resist any X hax no matter how powerful is the latter as long as they are on equal dimensions, which is asinine.
Hax
| Having resistances to certain hax can help characters/things to withstand them, but only if the specific resistances are around the same scale as the hax being used against them, or better. |
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That's blatant NLF.
Deeper concepts completely trivialize shallow concepts, so unless Rimuru has feats of adapting to a type 3 concept that completely trivializes a 'normal' type 3 concept, he won't be able to adapt to it.
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He is not affecting he resisting and adapt to it.
The fundamental aspect being concepts thats the point. Everything is case by case
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The argument info>concepts seems really desperate to me...
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that's very wrong
how potent rim hgr really is ? how many layers of resistance? ofc you wouldn't bring the information thing because it's literally useless for hgr potential
ikr and so....
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Define "trivialize". The concepts just more stronger nothing of the kind transcendece as in dimensional level
Thats not NLF, he already have resistance to it, his RE basically helps him adapt to every ability he analyzed as long as its not concepts type 2 and he is not killed in the spot he will adapt to it
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Yeah, because it's dumb. That means nothing here.
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So every reactive evolution and adaption can adapt everything that on the same dimensionality as the users without any backing feats to do so? Gotcha, make a thread about this to prove your points since this is the first time I heard this.
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Lol this thread is funny
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Not everything, he already have resistance to it and have feats of gaining more potent resistance from analyzing more potent ability.
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Exactly.
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That can still be applied from my stand of argument, you can adapt X hax, but since they are on the same dimensionality the user can adapt X hax even though say, it is almost uncountable infinitely superior than the former. I won't really say that if I were you, though.
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No, i'm laughing about the thread
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I'm pretty sure someone made a Q & A post on Reactive Evolution and NLF a while ago, and people said it would be NLF to assume a character can adapt to abilities of a higher level than what the character has feats of adapting to.
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then explain why that information being deeper than concept affecting rim hgr potential,it's very desperate to using this argument for countering hgr negate
if you being so strong at this point,can you give us the thread link where it's stated so
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Yep, and? Rimuru have feats of adapting to more potent ability on top of already have resistance to conceptual manip everything is based of feats for example Alovenus can jump from 1-B to low 1-A with just reactive evolution. Depend on the limit of the said feats, for Rimuru's case he already have said feats.
Info made concepts Anos have no feats of affecting something that more fundamental than concepts.
Explain why concepts in maou Gakuin is equal to something that made the concepts itself in other verse?
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Alovenus and Ruphas has feats to do it, and they did it, rimuru can't jump for tier 1 due RE
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Alovenus is a bad example here, not only she literally can adapt solely via sheer will, she is also explicitly being nigh-omnipotent and infinite within the verse.
Like I said, information lies deeper than concepts can only be applied in Tenshura, that doesn't mean information in Tenshura is superior to every type 3 concepts that governs 4-dimensional cosmology in vs debates. Like Bernkastelll said, this thread is funny.
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?? I never said he can jump to tier 1, i said he can adapt to a more potential ability, please understand my point everything is based on feats.
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So Rimuru has feats of adapting to 100 * uncountable above baseline concept destruction?
How about you explain to me why the most fundamental aspect of existence in Maou Gakuin isn't on the same level as the most fundamental info in Tensura?
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Sure, that doesn't change anything here since Rimuru doesn't have feats to adapt things that much more powerful than himself, the difference for Ruphas and Alovenus is, they did it via feats, not just assumption, and we don't assume they can jump beyond into 1-A, anyway.
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-_- the point of reactive evolution is adapting to something much more powerful than oneself.
Exactly everything based on feats even Alovenus can't jump to tier 1-A. Rimuru have feats of adapting to ability much more powerfull than himself.
Why i feels like explainimg something to a elementary schooler? why it is too hard to understand my point? seriously do i have to repeat it multiple times and dictate everything for you to understand?
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Elaborate on much here then we can talk. Which page or CRT?
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Can you pls give a scan to prove that information is the most fundamental thing in tensura? It will help others. Also pls justify how information can affect deeper type 3 concepts. Is it on a fundamental scale or just a skill?
Even if you have justified then, information will only be equivalent to conceptual manipulation, for concepts are the most basic and fundamental things even in case of plot manipulation.(since everything is made up of concepts). "concepts" have a general meaning. It could be anything.
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Thank you, everytime I saw your comments, I sigh.
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on the blog made by celestial pegasus, we can see a lot of scans saying that informations is the most fundamental thing ever
wdym?
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This is one mess of a thread.
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Rimuru has resitance towards cm3 based on this feat:
Was unaffected by the destruction of the universe
So it will give him only 1 layer of resistance towards cm3. And as explained by imZer0null, rimuru can't resist cm3 concepts which are 100*uncountable above tier 2 baseline,unless he has feats of doing so.
So Anos wins via incap.
I'mma vote for my boi Anos.
Was unaffected by the destruction of the universe
So it will give him only 1 layer of resistance towards cm3. And as explained by imZer0null, rimuru can't resist cm3 concepts which are 100*uncountable above tier 2 baseline,unless he has feats of doing so.
So Anos wins via incap.
I'mma vote for my boi Anos.
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