- 16,264
- 10,712
prove what?
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Anos Vs Rimuru (Again)
- Thread starter RamadhanDayYet
- Start date
- Status
- 1,204
- 1,052
Then make a better argument rather than information>concept which is wrong in blatant way for this case.
- 16,264
- 10,712
On rimuru case it is, I'm not sure about Anos
- 550
- 256
- Thread starter
- #44
i mean,it's like 99+ layer of resistance ,yeah it's type 3 but
he still can negate someone that can regenerate from being loled after his fundamental aspect destroyed ,that's the point
- 316
- 62
No matter how potent they're type 3 is type 3. There's a reason why there's 4 type of conceptual manipulation.
- 550
- 256
- Thread starter
- #46
still not affecting the hgr layer of resistance tho
- 16,264
- 10,712
I mean, there has layers of it, a higher layer of type 3 can easily negs a lower layer of type 3
- 1,204
- 1,052
That's literally not how concepts works, you're saying X resistance can resist any X hax no matter how powerful is the latter as long as they are on equal dimensions, which is asinine.
Hax
| Having resistances to certain hax can help characters/things to withstand them, but only if the specific resistances are around the same scale as the hax being used against them, or better. |
- 873
- 661
That's blatant NLF.
Deeper concepts completely trivialize shallow concepts, so unless Rimuru has feats of adapting to a type 3 concept that completely trivializes a 'normal' type 3 concept, he won't be able to adapt to it.
- 316
- 62
He is not affecting he resisting and adapt to it.
The fundamental aspect being concepts thats the point. Everything is case by case
- 873
- 661
The argument info>concepts seems really desperate to me...
- 550
- 256
- Thread starter
- #52
that's very wrong
how potent rim hgr really is ? how many layers of resistance? ofc you wouldn't bring the information thing because it's literally useless for hgr potential
ikr and so....
- 316
- 62
Define "trivialize". The concepts just more stronger nothing of the kind transcendece as in dimensional level
Thats not NLF, he already have resistance to it, his RE basically helps him adapt to every ability he analyzed as long as its not concepts type 2 and he is not killed in the spot he will adapt to it
- 1,204
- 1,052
Yeah, because it's dumb. That means nothing here.
- 1,204
- 1,052
So every reactive evolution and adaption can adapt everything that on the same dimensionality as the users without any backing feats to do so? Gotcha, make a thread about this to prove your points since this is the first time I heard this.
- 16,264
- 10,712
Lol this thread is funny
- 316
- 62
Not everything, he already have resistance to it and have feats of gaining more potent resistance from analyzing more potent ability.
- 1,204
- 1,052
Exactly.
- 316
- 62
- 1,204
- 1,052
That can still be applied from my stand of argument, you can adapt X hax, but since they are on the same dimensionality the user can adapt X hax even though say, it is almost uncountable infinitely superior than the former. I won't really say that if I were you, though.
- 16,264
- 10,712
No, i'm laughing about the thread
- 873
- 661
I'm pretty sure someone made a Q & A post on Reactive Evolution and NLF a while ago, and people said it would be NLF to assume a character can adapt to abilities of a higher level than what the character has feats of adapting to.
- 550
- 256
- Thread starter
- #64
then explain why that information being deeper than concept affecting rim hgr potential,it's very desperate to using this argument for countering hgr negate
if you being so strong at this point,can you give us the thread link where it's stated so
- 316
- 62
Yep, and? Rimuru have feats of adapting to more potent ability on top of already have resistance to conceptual manip everything is based of feats for example Alovenus can jump from 1-B to low 1-A with just reactive evolution. Depend on the limit of the said feats, for Rimuru's case he already have said feats.
Info made concepts Anos have no feats of affecting something that more fundamental than concepts.
Explain why concepts in maou Gakuin is equal to something that made the concepts itself in other verse?
- 16,264
- 10,712
Alovenus and Ruphas has feats to do it, and they did it, rimuru can't jump for tier 1 due RE
- 1,204
- 1,052
Alovenus is a bad example here, not only she literally can adapt solely via sheer will, she is also explicitly being nigh-omnipotent and infinite within the verse.
Like I said, information lies deeper than concepts can only be applied in Tenshura, that doesn't mean information in Tenshura is superior to every type 3 concepts that governs 4-dimensional cosmology in vs debates. Like Bernkastelll said, this thread is funny.
Last edited:
- 316
- 62
?? I never said he can jump to tier 1, i said he can adapt to a more potential ability, please understand my point everything is based on feats.
- 873
- 661
So Rimuru has feats of adapting to 100 * uncountable above baseline concept destruction?
How about you explain to me why the most fundamental aspect of existence in Maou Gakuin isn't on the same level as the most fundamental info in Tensura?
Last edited:
- 1,204
- 1,052
Sure, that doesn't change anything here since Rimuru doesn't have feats to adapt things that much more powerful than himself, the difference for Ruphas and Alovenus is, they did it via feats, not just assumption, and we don't assume they can jump beyond into 1-A, anyway.
- 316
- 62
-_- the point of reactive evolution is adapting to something much more powerful than oneself.
Exactly everything based on feats even Alovenus can't jump to tier 1-A. Rimuru have feats of adapting to ability much more powerfull than himself.
Why i feels like explainimg something to a elementary schooler? why it is too hard to understand my point? seriously do i have to repeat it multiple times and dictate everything for you to understand?
- 1,295
- 772
- 1,204
- 1,052
Elaborate on much here then we can talk. Which page or CRT?
- 1,295
- 772
Can you pls give a scan to prove that information is the most fundamental thing in tensura? It will help others. Also pls justify how information can affect deeper type 3 concepts. Is it on a fundamental scale or just a skill?
Even if you have justified then, information will only be equivalent to conceptual manipulation, for concepts are the most basic and fundamental things even in case of plot manipulation.(since everything is made up of concepts). "concepts" have a general meaning. It could be anything.
- 1,204
- 1,052
Thank you, everytime I saw your comments, I sigh.
- 16,264
- 10,712
on the blog made by celestial pegasus, we can see a lot of scans saying that informations is the most fundamental thing ever
wdym?
- 1,295
- 772
- 827
- 171
This is one mess of a thread.
- 1,295
- 772
Rimuru has resitance towards cm3 based on this feat:
Was unaffected by the destruction of the universe
So it will give him only 1 layer of resistance towards cm3. And as explained by imZer0null, rimuru can't resist cm3 concepts which are 100*uncountable above tier 2 baseline,unless he has feats of doing so.
So Anos wins via incap.
I'mma vote for my boi Anos.
Was unaffected by the destruction of the universe
So it will give him only 1 layer of resistance towards cm3. And as explained by imZer0null, rimuru can't resist cm3 concepts which are 100*uncountable above tier 2 baseline,unless he has feats of doing so.
So Anos wins via incap.
I'mma vote for my boi Anos.
- Status
