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CW Speed Revisions

Gorilla Grodd taps into the Speed Force in the comics, allowing him to be about as swift as Flash. If CW Grodd can tag The Flash, he is Super Fast.
 
@Matt

I'd disagree. I'd say an unenhanced (physically) Gorilla tagging the Flash is a low-showing for the Flash. I was just saying the way Griffin worded it implied that he tagged Flash while he was moving explicitly supersonic, in which case that would be evidence Grodd is just really fast as opposed to Flash being slow.
 
@Matt ca n you actually use that logic

1. This is not the comics so that shouldn't be brought up

2. Just because he tags him doesn't mean he's super fast since he's been tagged by bees, captain cold & heatwave, pide Popper if I believe and that clone mata human who can only clone himself and that's all.

Now I'm not saying we just disregard him tagging the flash but I also don't think we should disregard the flash getting tagged by ordinary beings who have no speed like his on several occasions but I got to go but like I siad I'm ok if we rank him higher
 
Flash being tagged by normal people is PIS. That's not an argument.

Evidence that Grodd DOESN'T have super speed?
 
@Matt

I'm pretty sure the burden of evidence would be on you to prove that he does have superspeed. If Flash gets punked by some guard at a bar we aren't just gonna assume that guard is supersonic.

Either way it's not really relevant since (most) everyone seems fine w/ an upgrade to MHS.
 
Alright so normal humans tag him pis but when a gorilla who was stated to only have enhanced intelligence tags him it's all good? Well that's a lot of PIS then. They went through this Grodds origin and they only enhanced his intelligence other then that he is a normal gorilla so why is he much faster then the humans that tag the flash? He should be putt like everyone else in the PIS pile
 
@God-King I can't really say since the gorilla in the coliseum was capable of creating a small shockwave by hitting the ground but that sure doesn't mean Grodd is like him since Grodd even said he lost and couldn't beat him and needed the flash to do it.
 
Grodd clearly doesn't only have enhanced intellect. He has Superman Strength, Durability and Agility at the very least.

He's survived getting hit by a train, many of Barry's "Supersonic Punches", and overpowered those same punches, and he can scale buildings with ease, which normal Gorillas can't.

Grodd is enhanced in every way. So when he catches up to Flash and hits Flash, I assume he also has Super Speed, since all his other mental and physical capabilities are shown as enhanced.
 
@Matt like I said I have a bad memory and forgot all about him getting hit by a train. Well that beats my any argument I have about a him being a normal gorilla. Anyway it seems like a lot of people agree with the upgrades and most the evidence I brought up goes into the PIS pile since its all humans tagging so which speed are we using?
 
I also agree with the original post.
 
Would the lightning feat be considered an example of short burst speed? also why is barry building level with lightning bolt was it stated to be as powerful as real lightning?
 
@Andy as far as I'm aware real lightning is building level. And really we're just going to accept this? Sigh... fine whatever do as you like.
 
@David I know real lightning is building level. I'm asking why Barry's lightning bolt attack is considered to be the same as real lightning.
 
@Andy oh sorry, I guess the question went over my head well I don't know it was accepted long b4 I joined the site so can't help u there sorry
 
@David Well, it depends on if the Narutoforums calcers have accepted the calculations, but yes, our calc group members should preferably consider the one that we decide to scale from acceptable as well.
 
LordXcano seems to be okay with the Mach 710 calculation though.
 
I want to point two instances of the writer's incompetency. in 'the flash is born' barry travels at supersonic speed to punch girder, when he breaks the sound barrier girder hears it and activates his powers. so the sound created by barry running faster than the speed of sound reaches his opponent before he does ! what?! in season 3 a major plot point is that barry cannot cover the distance between him and savitar in 0.23 seconds and has no hope of doing so within the the time he has, I did the maths. even covering 100 meters in 0.23 seconds is only around mach 1.2 . I can see why people are reluctant to accept the writer's statement.
 
I would advocate MHS being legitimate, the arrowverse writers have shown pretty clearly that they dont understand physics very well so character statements shouldn't be taken too seriously

the last two should be outliers too I agree, as well as him dodging light beams from doctor light which would likely yield high end relativistic due to there being a distance of 15 or so meters
 
This is a tough one. Clearly Barry has the feats to be at least MHS and at most near the speed of light. I think we need to take the writer's word for it because I can see Barry needing to legitimately reach or exceed the speed of light for future plot progression.
 
Just hopping in to say Hop approves of this. Is very feasible, and the calcs look good, although someone with a better eye should probably see them first.
 
The thread as a whole has an overwhelming amount of support. Along with Matt and Xcano and being alright with the Mach 710 stuff.

Someone knowledgable on CW scaling should just edit the profiles already.
 
FYI, I did not scale it to Grodd even though he is scaled to Flash since the punch he caught was explicitly just a bit above Mach 1, is everyone okay with that?
 
@Xcano Hasn't Grodd kept up with Flash on other occasions besides that?
 
Just found something i wanted to share here for a bit, though i know MHS+ Flash is something not accepted for the most part, he does have this perception feat that also correlates with his MHS+ feat......if even not accepted too here as well.

You can just look at it cause i find it humorous of how good this one is.

Aside that, and though it's already done, i agree of Flash being MHS at most for here. Though i had initially thought of him going HHS+ but didn't want to say it here at the time.
 
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