I've watched Season 8 crossover and part of Season 6 and 7 but I mostly remember abilities and not overly major feats
I don’t think you can prove that he absorbed enough of the blast so that his durability wouldn’t scale at all. What his body took would just be lower into tier 7.
Ah 1) so he’s 10-A now? 2) He could have been holding back or torturing Joe, 3) I don’t even remember this, 4) this only applies to Deathstorm not the Jax/Stein one.
He should be relative to Vixen and Wally iirc.
This was discussed back when the feat was accepted. It’s supposed to be a feat so we see it as one despite the train’s supposed limitations.
I think we can deduce the speed from the scene.
Barry has outright scaling to the SF in like season 6-7. But I didn’t see it yet, so imma stay neutral on that.
I was mostly busy asking myself how was is possible for this series to sink like that honestly
He just absorbed it. We have no reference.
1) I'd argue his standard blasts just aren't as powerful as you think they are.
Didn't he knock out Vixen?
Then say we should rectify that, especially since we're getting rid of so many calculations based on inconsistency and bad math (in-universe, not Spino).
Sure.
Is that a joke?
During one of the best on-screen TV superhero team-ups ever. Episode 2 of LoT.
I'm assuming it comes from a meteor.
We were aware of that. But it's still a feat for Steel stopping that much dwarf star ore.
Actually we do, if he had absorbed all of it immediately then the blast wouldn't have expanded that much.
1) So weak that he can't easily kill a human? Either you argue he's tier 9 consistently and use it or you don't and then you don't use it.
He never fought Vixen AFAIK and he wasn't there with the Dominators. Also you could potentially scale everyone to season 2 Supergirl via the Dominators, the question is whether we should since I'm pretty sure this includes the likes of Oliver Queen.
No like the issues were brought up before and we decided to go with tier 7 anyways since he still stopped that much dwarf star ore, outlier for the train to have that much dwarf star on it. That's what I'm getting at.
I don't get your logic here, we're not even basing ourselves on statements for the calc right? Also dwarf star matter is from a dwarf star, like duh.
Probably better to just scale her to her own stuff and use Flash as supporting evidence. Especially considering she still tops out at just under lightspeed.
Never said what I meant by consistent though
Maybe. That’s how it happened in the comics.
I’m aware of that, but it’s still probably millions of times less impressive than calculated.
He could also be absorbing the portion he’s making contact with.
I didn’t argue his standard blasts were tier 9.
Because every blast he fires is just as powerful, even when he’s explicitly not restraining himself.
It happens over time, and I can’t get one rn.
I brought it up as a counter to both.
The wiki says otherwise, but I don’t know how reliable that is. I’ll have to look into it.
I’ll take your word for that, but I do vaguely remember him killing them (I’m assuming it’s not with special arrows).
And I’m saying we’re taking those kinds of issues into account now, which we’re using this entire thread for. Also, there’s plenty of other issues that I brought up.
We’re still relying on the CW’s misunderstanding of science and massive amounts of non-sense for our calculation to work, is what I’m saying.
Yeah, probably. But is that stated?
Agreed, it's already confusing enough so we should focus on stuff proper to each character
Did we completely settle the speed stuff?
I didn’t even bring up my scaling, nor the relevant speed feats yet lol.
Oh, wow. Again I know it's a statement but I mean certain feats are hard to judge without someone explaining what is happening.
Considering the whole mess, it's a good thing we at least get some explanation (and even then it's spectaculary confusing)
It's kinda really ******* bad in the CW tho like deadass even smallville did Clarks speed progression and usage pretty decently and rando's wouldn't just be able to blitz him all the time and usually other stakes were involved in him not being able to just blitz people or getting caught off. It's just handled in a way that doesn't even lack common sense even if they try and involve any basic numbers or thought into their math(talking about the CW ofc)
I mean Savitar was at the other end of that street and the main thing was him lacking sufficient acceleration.
It’s 0.21 seconds for Savitar’s action itself, and the Flash can easily accelerate to those speeds.
Yeah this statement left me scratching my head when I binged Season 1. It wasn’t even a single ton of TNT yet the cast was worried about it causing doomsday
