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CW Flash Revision
- Thread starter Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
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TBH I don't know if we should scale Speedsters to Kryptonians
Like do we have any showings they're on par in AP
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Don't really know either (the whole comparison was done because Thawne stated he defeated Superman in Crisis on Earth X I believe) but even then, the series has grown much higher than the current tier for Kryptonians and aliens
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I recall Flash surviving hits from supervillains that can harm Supergirl in crossovers but aside from that don’t remember anything
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There's this from Superman and lois for AP
Superman survives the impact and u see the aftermath of the blast at the end
Superman survives the impact and u see the aftermath of the blast at the end
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Well looks like the video got blocked
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I kind of remember the Dominators about this but that's it (and I don't have the bravery to rewatch everything to be sure)
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Also yeah the power progression is there for later seasons of the Flash I suppose and Superman and Lois, Flash has like 5-B ED and is stated many times to be able to destroy the world with his running and Superman has a 6-A attack that takes all his energy and leaves him drained for days
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Greenshifter was planning to make season keys for Supergirl like Flash too but that's taking forever
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That's weird it works fine for me maybe it's blocked in your region
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Probably, the video tells me it's from one of my country's channel wich always blocks its content on YT
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Even outside of those special elements (Flash's ED and solar flare), the characters are apparently much stronger than before anyway
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Not only that but this would have affected the whole verse like Legends of Tomorrow from what I recall and yeah, it's been months now and no news (I understand that's not a big priority of course, and that's a good thing I mean there's more in life than tv shows but it still sucks)
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So looking at the fight linked, the current claim that Reverse-Flash easily overpowered Firestorm seems rather inaccurate
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He did take a massive direct blast from him in Season 1 Episode 9 though
I think the problem is whether Firestorm outputs 7-B energy with every strike which doesn't seem to be the case tbh.
I think the problem is whether Firestorm outputs 7-B energy with every strike which doesn't seem to be the case tbh.
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I forget the context of it early on isn't he going to have like a nuclear meltdown or something and that's the 7-B feat? If so the he likely just varies
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Did Thanwe ever harm Firestorm?
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He knocked him back by spinning his hand but the scaling honestly seems flimsy. Plus I'm not sure we should consider Firestorm's feat as tanking a nuke when he has absorption powers.
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Idk he threw him hard enough to where barry needed to catch him so ig
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Maybe as durability via absorption?
Like blah blah level and 7-B with absorption
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Yeah as I've said we don't have much context and Thawne has several ways to **** with Supes without relying on stats. I do agree the series is much higher then we currently put them tho
maybe up to 7-B via absorption?
But yeah we should prolly scale Thawne to stuff like Firestorm's normal blasts
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Wich would give us...?
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The blast seems pretty decent sized I mean it'll at the very least give us some kind of bare minimum rating (probably like 9-A)
can we use this for a calc? I could put in a request?
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I think the proposed upgrades for Supergirl are going to be higher anyway.
Although speaking of Superman and Lois there's also him releasing all the solar energy in the body rivalling the energy of the Sun.
Although speaking of Superman and Lois there's also him releasing all the solar energy in the body rivalling the energy of the Sun.
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Oh what are the proposed upgrades for Supergirl?
And yeah I mentioned that earlier and did the CRT for that that put him at 6-A via solar flare since it's basically just the amount of energy the sun releases in a second
That should be his absolute peak tho for now since it disables him for days
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I already added that as a weakness when I did the crt
"Using his Solar Flare and overtaxing his solar reserves will render him weak and powerless for days"
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Yep well we actually need to find something that actually holds up for it but yeah
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So I did some digging and Andytrenom actually already brought up a bunch of backup feats since he was unsure about the Low 7-B rating ages ago
Season 4 Flash destroying the satellite is High 7-C, while post-tachyon amp Season 2 Flash should scale to High 8-C Black Siren, fodder Zoom villains have destroyed buildings, and late Season 5 Nora caused 8-B earthquakes.
Anyway I'll try to calculate Firestorm's regular blasts. The rationale back then was that Firestorm didn't immediately start absorbing nuclear energy and tanked the nuke first, but looking back it seems kinda flimsy due to the nature of his powers.
Season 4 Flash destroying the satellite is High 7-C, while post-tachyon amp Season 2 Flash should scale to High 8-C Black Siren, fodder Zoom villains have destroyed buildings, and late Season 5 Nora caused 8-B earthquakes.
Anyway I'll try to calculate Firestorm's regular blasts. The rationale back then was that Firestorm didn't immediately start absorbing nuclear energy and tanked the nuke first, but looking back it seems kinda flimsy due to the nature of his powers.
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Nice work finding that it's good to see Barry has something solid to stand on then
Anyone who's familiar with the legends can probably help there in terms of his powers and displays from that show to make it easier for ya
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Is there a calc for firestorm destroying that giant bomb in the crossover it seems like he vaporized the metal since only the insides remained it's either that or he liquidified it hard to tell
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They do the explosion from his blast has knocked goons back before
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Which crossover was this again?
That might be really good
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The one with the dominators
It happens at 1:23
Edit: Oh damn wait nvm he just transmuted it
watching the full scene just killed this one
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Also btw there's two firestorm nuclear bomb feats so which does the profile use?
