Cthulhu tier.

[Ishneray]

Based solely on what Lovecraft wrote, which would be the appropriate tier to Cthulhu?

 

[Nemo212]

Depends on how tall you peg him at. Lovecraft says he was as tall as a mountain, so we can assume he's at the very least 300 meters tall. Luckily, the good folks that get their rocks off to giantesses have a calculator for big humanoids.

http://www.labbacomics.com/calculator/outputs

Assuming he's an AA cup, and he can jump with a running start:

• 300 meters - Town level (7-C).
• 1000 meters - City level (7-B).
• 9000 meters - Large Island level (High 6-C).

You could also make the point that he should be superior to his child Ythogtha, and put him at Low 6-B. Hope that helps.

 

[Planck69]

Honestly, he should still stay Unknown since whatever tiering we have is just via size and not at all appropriate to tier a character shrouded in complete mystery.

Regarding his size, he's capable of standing at the bottom of the Pacific and have his head pop out of the water.

 

[Arceus0x]

Honestly, he should still stay Unknown since whatever tiering we have is just via size and not at all appropriate to tier a character shrouded in complete mystery.
Regarding his size, he's capable of standing at the bottom of the Pacific and have his head pop out of the water.

despite being in the pacific he was near his island meaning that the ocean was not that deep. Also, that ship did ram through him, if he was like 3 miles high he woud've not even felt the ship.

 

[Planck69]

You mean the same island that explicitly sinks to the bottom of the ocean and isn't part of the Earth's crust? Considering that the point in the story also corresponds to a real life location that was calced to be about 2.7km to 3 km deep, he clearly isn't moving gradually to deeper depths from his city.

He didn't feel anything though. It moves through him, he regenerates and goes back to slumber.

 

[Arceus0x]

You mean the same island that explicitly sinks to the bottom of the ocean and isn't part of the Earth's crust? Considering that the point in the story also corresponds to a real life location that was calced to be about 2.7km to 3 km deep, he clearly isn't moving gradually to deeper depths from his city.
He didn't feel anything though. It moves through him, he regenerates and goes back to slumber.

eh i guess so. he still gets harmed in that form though meaning that there was some notable damage and a ship can do only so much. oh well

 

[Planck69]

This "he gets harmed by a boat" has been debunked to hell and back. Cthulhu is only partially awake, still depowered and restricted by the stars being out of order and doesn't showcase any supposed signs of being bothered at all.

It literally just exists to give Lovecraft an excuse for Cthulhu to flex with his regen, considering the fact that his star-spawn can survive inside the cores of stars, one of his children can shatter countries by moving etc.

 

[Arceus0x]

This "he gets harmed by a boat" has been debunked to hell and back. Cthulhu is only partially awake, still depowered and restricted by the stars being out of order and doesn't showcase any supposed signs of being bothered at all.
It literally just exists to give Lovecraft an excuse for Cthulhu to flex with his regen, considering the fact that his star-spawn can survive inside the cores of stars, one of his children can shatter countries by moving etc.

i am not trying to argue about power here, im trying to argue that if cthulhu is colossal like we assume i can't imagine him getting even bothered by a boat, yet the description in the story states there was some damge.

I don't mind cthulhu having a high tier, im just arguing about size.

 

[Planck69]

But Johansen had not given out yet. Knowing that the Thing could surely overtake the Alert until steam was fully up, he resolved on a desperate chance; and, setting the engine for full speed, ran lightning-like on deck and reversed the wheel. There was a mighty eddying and foaming in the noisome brine, and as the steam mounted higher and higher the brave Norwegian drove his vessel head on against the pursuing jelly which rose above the unclean froth like the stern of a daemon galleon. The awful squid-head with writhing feelers came nearly up to the bowsprit of the sturdy yacht, but Johansen drove on relentlessly. There was a bursting as of an exploding bladder, a slushy nastiness as of a cloven sunfish, a stench as of a thousand opened graves, and a sound that the chronicler would not put on paper. For an instant the ship was befouled by an acrid and blinding green cloud, and then there was only a venomous seething astern; where—God in heaven!—the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form, whilst its distance widened every second as the Alert gained impetus from its mounting steam.
	~ The Call of Cthulhu​

Yes, it gets spliced, however nothing suggests that the entire head gets split apart. It went through him and cut a path through the material of its head before it restored itself, that path being really thin compared to the rest of the head is still very much plausible.

Cthulhu himself doesn't even react. He just regenerates and goes away.

 

[Arceus0x]

doesn't react? He actually stops chasing after the dude because of that

 

[Planck69]

Again, he regenerates and just goes away, knowing that the mortal would either go mad or get killed by his followers (which happens in the end). Are you seriously suggesting that a being whose minions can tank the cores of stars, whose child can cause nation-wide calamities by moving and can terrify the most advanced creatures in the cosmos...is staggered by a boat?

Even if he was bothered, why would size be involved? It goes through his head, a normal creature would be injured regardless of its size

 

[Arceus0x]

Again, he regenerates and just goes away, knowing that the mortal would either go mad or get killed by his followers (which happens in the end). Are you seriously suggesting that a being whose minions can tank the cores of stars, whose child can cause nation-wide calamities by moving and can terrify the most advanced creatures in the cosmos...is staggered by a boat?
Even if he was bothered, why would size be involved? It goes through his head, a normal creature would be injured regardless of its size

you missed my point as im not mentioning power here but idk if i can show you what i mean as i can't exactly explain it with words.

 

[Planck69]

I addressed that in the second paragraph. The story states the boat goes through his head, this indicates its head is as small as the boat why? All we're told is that the boat makes its way through the matter at Cthulhu's head, this doesn't disprove anything regarding it's size especially considering that it's described to be as a mountain, is far larger than Shoggoth who are the size of railway tunnels, walks on the ocean floor with its head peaking through the waves and was buried in a monolith described as a mountain-top and dizzying in height.