Vizer04
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Cosmic Garou vs Super Janemba (0-0-0)
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Braking
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doomsday vs garou time
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Tiktok garou
Braking
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I'm gonna jump
to block garou's grb
and then die
to block garou's grb
and then die
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ohhhhh uhhh
garou can't copy 3-C since the wiki kinda had to downplay him to make the whole limiter break stuff useless
we're gonna have to use their lesser keys to make this match work, even though that's bullshit we have to do it
Eden_Warlock99
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Fat Janemba has passive Sealing no?
Braking
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by that you mean PN?
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I think he means PN?
Not sure if it will do anything to Garou, I’m more interested in Janemba’s sword because of dura neg.
Braking
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it could negate his shit
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What shit in particular?
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He didn’t really do anything to Goku, Vegeta, or Pikkon. (Am I missing something? It’s been a while since I have seen the movie)
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A couple things need to be cleared up. First, which keys are being used: is this Parallel Timeline Awakened Garou or the main timeline Awakened Garou, and is it Janemba or Super Janemba who's fighting here. Cuz the way I see it, Super Janemba just AP stomps Garou, and the rules of the wiki have already established Garou can't copy anything higher than 4-A, regardless of whether it's actually true or not. So if it's base Janemba and Awakened Garou starts off at High 4-C, then Awakened Garou just copies Janemba.
Honestly, what can Janemba really do against Garou? For one, we don't know whether Janemba can really resist the level of radiation that Garou emits. Secondly, he doesn't really have anything in his arsenal that Garou can't copy. He could likely copy Janemba's portal creation, since it's really similar to Blast's own portals, and just completely outskills Janemba or obliterates him with a GRB. Seems like kind of a stomp in Garou's favor. What are Janemba's wincons here?
Honestly, what can Janemba really do against Garou? For one, we don't know whether Janemba can really resist the level of radiation that Garou emits. Secondly, he doesn't really have anything in his arsenal that Garou can't copy. He could likely copy Janemba's portal creation, since it's really similar to Blast's own portals, and just completely outskills Janemba or obliterates him with a GRB. Seems like kind of a stomp in Garou's favor. What are Janemba's wincons here?
Vietthai96
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Fat Janemba passive Law, Sealing and Power Null Garou to oblivion. So no using Fat Janemba is just a stomp.
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Doesn't Garou already have portal crafting? and I think it's even more versatile than the one in janemba, but anyway, if it's the janemba in the image, it would give one hit in garou, due to the much superior ap.
Vietthai96
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It not only sealing but also power null, he stripped King Yemma his ability to govern hell and seal him away in his palace
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Well assuming Janemba really did nullify Yemma's power as testified above, than the simple solution to why Goku, Pikkon, and Vegeta weren't affected is that they have a resistance to power null.
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Yes, still have it. I don't see how Garou could do anything.
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There’s no implication that they themselves have the resistance to power null.
They all do share one trait though: they are dead.
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O null power is a combo actually. the person who is sealed has their powers nullified, and goku and pikkon weren't sealed, so they didn't have their powers nullified.
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The implication is that they weren't affected by Janemba's passive power null. It doesn't need to be stated to be a resistance or anything.
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The question it is that they did not in fact resist the null power, because it is through sealing. Sealing not only seals people away, it also nullifies their powers. Both Goku and Pikkon were not sealed, that's why they didn't have their powers sealed.
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I was working under the premise that the power null is passive and that the sealing is not, as his sealing isn't noted to be passive in his profile while his power null is. That isn't to say it isn't, but I was arguing specially under the premise that the profile was true and that the two have no correlation to one another.
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weird, because the first thing that happens after the janemba is born, is all hell being sealed, the sealing that should be passive.
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Honestly, this is a stomp.
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While this is probably true, it being passive isn't reflected on the profile. Though I do think that if what you say is true both should be passive.
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Strange not to be on your profile this.
Here is the scene of his appearance, the first thing that happens is hell being sealed, and the people who are sealed in the crystals, have their powers nullified.
Vietthai96
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It is one time passive only, after the the hax finish its effects it is over and stop, Goku and Pikkon came way later after the affects are done so they are not being affected
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I should clarify, I agree with you assuming what you say is true, I'm just saying his sealing being passive isn't on his profile is all. It should be edited in if his power null is passive but only works if you get caught in his sealing.
Tbh, that doesn't particularly look passive. It kind of looks like he poofed into existence, and then started using sealing magic. Though illustrating passive abilities doesn't usually doesn't work unless you first explain that it's passive otherwise people just assume the ability can be used really quickly.
Vietthai96
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His birth and magic were messing with and reversing the laws of reality governing the Other World and the Universe, leading to the dead rising from their graves and other supernatural and physical phenomena outside of the norm.
Passive is an ability that active automatically, Janemba when start forming, warped the entire Otherworld, sealed King Yemma in his palace, nullified his power and stripped him of his ability to judge the death, it all happened at the same time, the effect is done when Janemba finish forming his body. In a vsmatch it will be treated as passive
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