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Corvo fight a shy enemy

Yeah weekly summed it up well in the og thread, 096 is a bulky tank which is hard to put down. His sleep dart is already useless since he’s been shown to be immune to sleep darts.
 
If it is not unfair, sure
Yeah Corvo needs it to even have a wincon


Seems like Corvo just outranges heavily and eventually incaps through possession and separation trauma as stated in the other thread. He'll just possess when he realizes how hard to kill 096 is. He can use his versatility for things like Blinking away from CQC when he notices the LS advantage. Also, what can 096 do against stealth? Corvo's pretty good at it, and his clairvoyance seems useless as Corvo has already seen his face.

Also
Likely Regeneration (Mid; It didn't appear to be injured in later logs even after losing all of its organs and blood, including the brain)
If there is some restrictions and this isn't a complete NLF, Corvo can prolly use things like springrazors and a superior AP to shred him apart beyond his regen, he's also got stun mines to incap through electricity and nothing on the profile indicates 096 can resist that.
 
Seems like Corvo just outranges heavily and eventually incaps through possession and separation trauma as stated in the other thread. He'll just possess when he realizes how hard to kill 096 is. He can use his versatility for things like Blinking away from CQC when he notices the LS advantage. Also, what can 096 do against stealth? Corvo's pretty good at it, and his clairvoyance seems useless as Corvo has already seen his face.
If he outranges he’ll speed amp to reach corvo. Corvo finding out about the LS advantage would mean his death, since 096 mainly uses it to grab and rip apart, which corvo wouldn’t be able to escape.

stealth useless, 096 always has a innate sense where his target is.

096 has superior stamina here too, so outlasting (everyone’s best wincon with 096) is gone.
 
As far as I know 096 is not immune to physical attacks, he just ignores the damage that is done to his body. In the profile itself it is mentioned that he's damaged by things like tank shots
 
so, i'll just throw all this out;

096 has LS, and will quickly have a Speed advantage due to his amps.

096 will have an innate sense where Corvo is at all times, no matter where he is.

096 does not feel pain. at all.

096 resists all of corvo's time stuff

shredding him apart is basically impossible, due to his mid regeneration and the fact Corvo doesn't have the LS to pull him apart, as 096 would resist such pulling. that and his regeneration pace is comparable to SCP-682.

similar to the other thread, 096 basically covers this due to his speed amps, superior LS, and incapability to be traditionally put down by anything in Corvo's arsenal besides one single ability, which is questionable if it'd even put him down long enough where corvo would win.
 
Amplifiers don't work
Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles.
  • As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
 
But I want it to be added, and therefore the amplifiers will not happen

... Ya know what, I will unequalize the speed
Yeah... unequalizing speed makes a whole lot more sense if you want it added, since restricting an ability also wont let it get added.

so yeah now 096 still out speeds, it'll just take an extra 2 minutes. iirc his speed amp is getting a buff where he can amp to hypersonic soon.
 
If he outranges he’ll speed amp to reach corvo.
Corvo can use blink to psuedo teleport and just move away all the same. This isn't an advantage
Corvo finding out about the LS advantage would mean his death, since 096 mainly uses it to grab and rip apart,
LS can't be used to tear apart someone with higher AP then you, it could only be used at best to restrain
which corvo wouldn’t be able to escape.
Corvo would be able to blink if his left hand is unrestrained

Besides, Corvo is monumentally more skilled then 096, I severly doubt he'll ever get the chance to grapple him anyway. But anyway, all of this assumes Corvo won't abuse his major range advantage, which he will. Corvo also seemingly has superior acrobatic skill anyway.
stealth useless, 096 always has a innate sense where his target is.
Does he always have it on his opponent for a permanent time or only when his face is seen because the way it's written on the profile it seems to be the latter
096 has superior stamina here too, so outlasting (everyone’s best wincon with 096) is gone.
Coolio. It's not Corvo's wincon and he can win with a hand raise through posession incap.
096 has LS, and will quickly have a Speed advantage due to his amps.
Corvo's blink coupled with the initial range advantage renders this useless. All Corvo has to do to win is use one of his standard hax which is activated by a hand raise before 096 can get close to use his LS.
096 will have an innate sense where Corvo is at all times, no matter where he is.
See above
096 does not feel pain. at all.
Cool
096 resists all of corvo's time stuff
Eh. He doesn't resist Bend Time's ability to reverse time so there's that.
shredding him apart is basically impossible, due to his mid regeneration
Spring Razors shred beyond what Mid Regeneration covers, so it's useless against it.
due to his mid regeneration and the fact Corvo doesn't have the LS to pull him apart, as 096 would resist such pulling
Spring razors shred through AP, not LS. Corvo's superior AP coupled with a couple razors should be able to shred 096 to bits, which is what I was arguing.

Corvo can just stun 096 through howling bolts and just place traps where he knows 096 will move thanks to Dark Vision precog.
that and his regeneration pace is comparable to SCP-682.
Coolio, not seeing how this debunks the argument tho.
096 basically covers this due to his speed amps,
Corvo just outranges it to the point this is a less meaningful. Corvo can precog exactly where 096 will move with dark vision and simply teleport out of range with Blink.
superior LS
Read above, 096 will never actually close the range gap before losing and even if he does he isn't skilled enough to out fight corvo in CQC before a blink away.
incapability to be traditionally put down by anything in Corvo's arsenal besides one single ability
Stun mines which you didn't actually provide a counter for

Spring Razors which I countered your rebuttal towards

Keep in mind the possession win con only requires Corvo raises his hand at 096 and can do it at a range 096 can't even harm him at.
which is questionable if it'd even put him down long enough where corvo would win.
Corvo can just keep incapping him for a loop win. His stamina wouldn't be taxed to much by that either.

And even then, even in missions which take place for hours sleep'd enemies don't wake up.
so yeah now 096 still out speeds, it'll just take an extra 2 minutes.
You got proof it can amp him to supersonic or more? No indication of that on his profile now that speed is unequal.
it'll just take an extra 2 minutes
Why?
irc his speed amp is getting a buff where he can amp to hypersonic soon.
Super. Til then, it's very dubious and baseless to claim he can amp above Corvo's speed.


Yeah, Corvo still wins mid diff. He can heart from a distance to learn more about 096's stuff and his unkillable history. He can incap him from a range with possession and incap him directly with stun mines that 096 has no resistance towards. 096's only wincon seems to be cqc and LS, which is countered by the range gap and Corvo outskilling to just blink away. Corvo has also fought groups of whalers who could telekinetically restrain him and render him immobile so he has experience fighting enemies with big LS gaps. The speed amp thing is also dubious due to the range gap, precog and the fact it's not currently accepted to have a multiplier or go faster then Corvo's faster speed so 🤷‍♂️.Corvo's wincons are easier to get off from a range and he has ways to deal with 096's wincons and dexterity so he wins.
 
Besides, Corvo is monumentally more skilled then 096, I severly doubt he'll ever get the chance to grapple him anyway. But anyway, all of this assumes Corvo won't abuse his major range advantage, which he will. Corvo also seemingly has superior acrobatic skill anyway.
He fought 682 for two days, who killed 076. 076 has thousands of years worth of experience, kills platoons of trained soldiers on the regular, and has mastered hundreds possibly thousands of martial arts.

skill will not work against 096.
Does he always have it on his opponent for a permanent time or only when his face is seen because the way it's written on the profile it seems to be the latter
Permanent


anyways, yeah now this match is ****** because 096 is speedblitzed. So either equalize speed and 096 gets to speedblitzing, or unequalize speed and he gets speedblitzed. so that makes this a mismatch.
 
also Carvo is only .5x stronger, and 096's durability upscales massively from being unscratched by things comparable to him. why is it assumed Carvo can do meaningful damage to him?
 
So I guess
Funny how all Dishonored's matches do not go into the profiles, never end or work
Aged like fine wine?
also Carvo is only .5x stronger, and 096's durability upscales massively from being unscratched by things comparable to him. why is it assumed Carvo can do meaningful damage to him?
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Corvo's calc is higher, no amount of vague scaling chain goonery is gonna change that (Corvo also has some scaling above his calc), Corvo's AP is still higher. Corvo's springrazors do significant shredding damage to people relative to him like Daud which means an abundance of them should shred 096 apart which is beyond his regen and since Corvo's AP is higher there's more credence to this argument. That was my argument. Corvo definitely has the AP to "meaningfully" damage 096.
 
Corvo's calc is higher, no amount of vague scaling chain goonery is gonna change that (Corvo also has some scaling above his calc), Corvo's AP is still higher. Corvo's springrazors do significant shredding damage to people relative to him like Daud which means an abundance of them should shred 096 apart which is beyond his regen and since Corvo's AP is higher there's more credence to this argument. That was my argument. Corvo definitely has the AP to "meaningfully" damage 096.
Vague scaling chain? 096 goes undamages from running through multiple buildings, undamaged from bullets that shred tank armor, Anti-Material weaponry, and couldn’t be conventionally damaged by the most heavily armed MTF squad in the foundation, standing on the sun. and his bones are intact from 682, who also upscales.

nothings vague about it??? He upsclales from 4-5 sources that are 9-A
 
Vague scaling chain? 096 goes undamages from running through multiple buildings, undamaged from bullets that shred tank armor, Anti-Material weaponry, and couldn’t be conventionally damaged by the most heavily armed MTF squad in the foundation, standing on the sun. and his bones are intact from 682, who also upscales.
None of this actually has calcs so not exactly quantifiable, and even then, is inherently beneath a 9-A+ when 096 is only 9-A. Not seeing the basis for the incredulity.
nothings vague about it??? He upsclales from 4-5 sources that are 9-A
If you can't quantify it then calling it vague is warranted. Also, it's still inherently beneath Corvo's 9-A+ regardless. This frankly shouldn't be in discussion.
 
Seems like Corvo just outranges heavily
Range means basically nothing when Corvo has no means to permanently put 096 down. 096 has taken down an AC-130 flying miles above its head before
and eventually incaps through possession and separation trauma as stated in the other thread. He'll just possess when he realizes how hard to kill 096 is. He can use his versatility for things like Blinking away from CQC when he notices the LS advantage.
Wouldnt work, even with that combo its not a permanent means of incapping an opponent long enough for a wincon, it just KOes them for a while
Also, what can 096 do against stealth? Corvo's pretty good at it, and his clairvoyance seems useless as Corvo has already seen his face.
096 telepathically knows the exact location of anyone that has seen its face, if Corvo sees its face stealth is out the window
If there is some restrictions and this isn't a complete NLF, Corvo can prolly use things like springrazors and a superior AP to shred him apart beyond his regen, he's also got stun mines to incap through electricity and nothing on the profile indicates 096 can resist that.
Corvo's AP advantage isnt enough to argue that he can win through sheer AP. 096 has shrugged off LMG fire powerful enough to shred a tank like tissue paper being shot at it for over a minute and was unfazed by half its torso being torn off, springrazors might shred its skin and organs but it wont do anything to its skeleton, meaning it wont do anything to stop 096. And stun mines do just that, stun, not for long enough to be a wincon.
Corvo would be able to blink if his left hand is unrestrained
Corvo doesnt need to move to use his powers, this has already been established.
Besides, Corvo is monumentally more skilled then 096, I severly doubt he'll ever get the chance to grapple him anyway. But anyway, all of this assumes Corvo won't abuse his major range advantage, which he will. Corvo also seemingly has superior acrobatic skill anyway.
As above, range means jack here.
 
The match works, the guy just gave up 🗿
But in the future there will be a perfect battle for Corvo
You can be sure
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Yeah alot of Corvo's matches are stomp or get stomped.
Range means basically nothing when Corvo has no means to permanently put 096 down. 096 has taken down an AC-130 flying miles above its head before
You don't have a good argument for that first claim either. Range certainly does matter against an opponent with a psuedo teleport, and faster combat and reactions then you, higher AP, and only has to do minimal things to win. None of this applies to a chopper…
Wouldnt work, even with that combo its not a permanent means of incapping an opponent long enough for a wincon, it just KOes them for a while
You don't actually provide an argument for this. I've provided more reason to think it would work then it wouldn't. Even then, Corvo can just loop incaps which is a wincon because putting your opponent in a state they can't do anything by looping wincons is itself a wincon.
096 telepathically knows the exact location of anyone that has seen its face, if Corvo sees its face stealth is out the window
Does he always have it on his opponent for a permanent time or only when his face is seen because the way it's written on the profile it seems to be the latter
This isn't a clear answer 🥴. Anyway, corvo gets an amp to his already superior reactions and combat speed through reflexes when he’s seen so 🤔.
Corvo's AP advantage isnt enough to argue that he can win through sheer AP
That's not exactly my claim though 🚶‍♂️
096 has shrugged off LMG fire powerful enough to shred a tank like tissue paper being shot at it for over a minute and was unfazed by half its torso being torn off
Cool? His regen is still mid and Corvo's AP is higher.
springrazors might shred its skin and organs but it wont do anything to its skeleton,
No argument for this whatsoever. Corvo's AP is higher, it will definitely affect his skeleton. Deadass y’all need to stop trying to deny that a 9-A+ can deal significant damage to a 9-A.
And stun mines do just that, stun, not for long enough to be a wincon.
What is the argument for this?
Corvo doesnt need to move to use his powers, this has already been established.
No it hasn't...
As above, range means jack here.
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You don't actually have an argument for why it doesn't mean anything. 096's sole wincon is literally pummeling someone with higher AP and Dura and someone who has higher combat speed and reaction in CQC, precog it’s movements and someone who can simply teleport away from it and abuse ranged wincons. Lmao at range not meaning anything.
 
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Cool? His regen is still mid and Corvo's AP is higher.

No argument for this whatsoever. Corvo's AP is higher, it will definitely affect his skeleton. Deadass y’all need to stop trying to deny that a 9-A+ can deal significant damage to a 9-A.
why does mentioning a .5x advantage have any significance? it doesn't. its negligible.
 
why does mentioning a .5x advantage have any significance? it doesn't. its negligible.
You’re kinda missing the point. Y’all keep saying Corvo can’t siginificantly damage 096 which I’m incredulous about because Corvo has an AP advantage. Two people of similar ap can harm each other significantly, so can someone with higher AP.
 
You’re kinda missing the point. Y’all keep saying Corvo can’t siginificantly damage 096 which I’m incredulous about because Corvo has an AP advantage. Two people of similar ap can harm each other significantly, so can someone with higher AP.
Yeah but thats assuming both people have the same stats for their AP and Durability, which isn't true. 096, as said here, ridiculously upscales from his durability rating, it shouldn't be assumed he can easily damage 096 with only a .5x advantage over 096's rating he upscales massively from.
 
Yeah but thats assuming both people have the same stats for their AP and Durability, which isn't true. 096, as said here, ridiculously upscales from his durability rating, it shouldn't be assumed he can easily damage 096 with only a .5x advantage over 096's rating he upscales massively from.
First of all, if they're relative in AP then Corvo could "easily damage"

Your "upscaling" is just a bunch of vague feats with no calcs. I shouldn't have to explain to you why a 9-A+ is stronger then a 9-A. No copping out about upscaling changes that.
 
First of all, if they're relative in AP then Corvo could "easily damage"

Your "upscaling" is just a bunch of vague feats with no calcs. I shouldn't have to explain to you why a 9-A+ is stronger then a 9-A. No copping out about upscaling changes that.
his durability should honestly be 9-A+. he's close enough to upscale, and has feats of no-selling countless 9-A weaponry from the foundation. but thats for a CRT, not a Vs thread.
 
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