Coolest Villain matchup | Van Kleiss vs Orochimaru |Generator Rex vs Naruto

[Apollonir.Scale]

Van Kleiss vs Orochimaru​

• Starting Distance: 10 Meters
• Equalized speed
• Both are 6-C (Kleiss: 23.38 Gigaton, Orochimaru: 4.3 Gigaton)
• Van Kleiss is not Abysus and Orochimaru does not use Edo Tensei.

Van Kleiss:
Orochimaru:

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

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[Arkansalter2]

Ho-ho boy! I sure hope this isn't a hax stomp!
looks at orochimaru's profile AAAAA-

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Ho-ho boy! I sure hope this isn't a hax stomp!
looks at orochimaru's profile AAAAA-

I don't see any threat other than paralysis manipulation.

 

[LeBronslegacy]

Don’t really know anything about Kleiss but it doesn’t seem he has a good way to put orochimaru down since apparently he has multiple ways to heal himself, with regeneration and being able to shed and regurgitate a fully health body. Something he could pull off while keeping Kleiss busy with summons and snakes that can poison. Need to know more about Kleiss though to really argue as his profile is really barebones.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Don’t really know anything about Kleiss but it doesn’t seem he has a good way to put orochimaru down since apparently he has multiple ways to heal himself, with regeneration and being able to shed and regurgitate a fully health body. Something he could pull off while keeping Kleiss busy with summons and snakes that can poison. Need to know more about Kleiss though to really argue as his profile is really barebones.

Kleiss generally starts by holding his opponent with a glove. He either turns the people he holds into "EVO"s or just electrocutes them.

 

[LeBronslegacy]

Thanks so much, seems like getting turned into an EVO would be a swift loss for Orchimaru but it seems to take a second to fully transform someone. So with his pain tolerance and snakes he can send out of his body, he may be able to still stop Kleiss if he gets grabbed, or he himself can transform and try to eat kleiss since he’s in close range anyways.

 

[LeBronslegacy]

Depending on which Key orochimaru is in though, he’d be able to resist being transformed thanks to hashirama cells which apparently give resistance to transmutation.

 

[Rocker1189]

Been a while since I did a vs battle. Which key is this for Orochimaru? Because he has resistance to transmutation if it is post ressurection. Assuming it is not however. I still think Orochimaru wins this mid diff. Orochimaru normally uses mud substitution in combat and can also create a new body for himself with the body replacement jutsu so both of those counter the touch oneshots. On top of that one use of either would let Orochimaru know that he should not get touched no matter what and also allows him to realise the difference in pure physicals. As for his win con, He has long range paralysis yes. But he also has his curse mark as well as poisons from snakes. And finally he has his corrosion barrier.

Orochimaru for my reasons stated.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

He either turns the people he holds into "EVO"s

Isn't that only done via Kleiss activating the dormant nanites in whatever he's holding?

Since in Rex's world most living things and the environment are infected with nanites with the exception of White Knight and his sterile environments.

So how would he turn Oro into a EVO when he doesn't have nanites?

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Isn't that only done via Kleiss activating the dormant nanites in whatever he's holding?

Since in Rex's world most living things and the environment are infected with nanites with the exception of White Knight and his sterile environments.

So how would he turn Oro into a EVO when he doesn't have nanites?

Oh my bad I forgot to sync the universe

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Been a while since I did a vs battle. Which key is this for Orochimaru? Because he has resistance to transmutation if it is post ressurection. Assuming it is not however. I still think Orochimaru wins this mid diff. Orochimaru normally uses mud substitution in combat and can also create a new body for himself with the body replacement jutsu so both of those counter the touch oneshots. On top of that one use of either would let Orochimaru know that he should not get touched no matter what and also allows him to realise the difference in pure physicals. As for his win con, He has long range paralysis yes. But he also has his curse mark as well as poisons from snakes. And finally he has his corrosion barrier.

Part1 Orochimaru

 

[Rocker1189]

Part1 Orochimaru

I see, well I argued assuming he does not have resistance anyway. I guess the only thing he would be missing is the corrosion barrier but honestly he should have that anyway regardless of key apart from where he does not have his jutsu.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Oh my bad I forgot to sync the universe

Are you saying that you're giving Oro nanites in his body? That's not how verse equalization works though?

 

[LeBronslegacy]

Been a while since I did a vs battle. Which key is this for Orochimaru? Because he has resistance to transmutation if it is post ressurection. Assuming it is not however. I still think Orochimaru wins this mid diff. Orochimaru normally uses mud substitution in combat and can also create a new body for himself with the body replacement jutsu so both of those counter the touch oneshots. On top of that one use of either would let Orochimaru know that he should not get touched no matter what and also allows him to realise the difference in pure physicals. As for his win con, He has long range paralysis yes. But he also has his curse mark as well as poisons from snakes. And finally he has his corrosion barrier.

Orochimaru for my reasons stated.

Agreed, being able to make new bodies for healing on top of regen plus summons and other defensive barriers gives him an advantage in survivability as well. As long as he doesn’t get caught off guard by being transmuted since it’s his part 1 key (along with being able to be transformed according to OP if that’s how verse equalization works in this case) he has enough tools in his kit to take the victory. The main win con for Kleiss seems to be his AP advantage and getting a transmutation off, don’t think the plant manip will be a problem since Orochimaru should be familiar with similar attacks in-verse.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Are you saying that you're giving Oro nanites in his body? That's not how verse equalization works though?

In any case, isn't it assumed that they both have the same energy and mechanics specific to their own universe through synchronization? For example, Kleiss will also have a chakra.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Kleiss also has the LS advantage besides AP

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

In any case, isn't it assumed that they both have the same energy and mechanics specific to their own universe through synchronization?

No.

Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

You can't arbitrarily give Oro nanites and Kleiss Chakra when both of those things are fundamentally different.

The equivalent of Nanites in Naruto/Boruto would be Scientific Ninja Tools since it behaves and functions similar to Nanites

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What about Orochimaru's layered Fear Hax?

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

What about Orochimaru's layered Fear Hax?

Is that ability layered?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Is that ability layered?

It literally says it worked on Kakashi who resisted Zabuza's Fear Hax.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

It literally says it worked on Kakashi who resisted Zabuza's Fear Hax.

I don't think this gives it a higher level. Kakashi had a childhood fear of Orochimaru.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I don't think this gives it a higher level. Kakashi had a childhood fear of Orochimaru.

No, that's not what happened. Kakashi was literally about to attack Orochimaru with confidence before he got fear haxed and saw his own death happening, causing him to even question why he thought his plan was a good idea.