Composite Hollow's Vs Composite One Piece

[SnookB]

Every fodder hollow has great space manipulation. They can cut thru space and move from one dimension to another or they can easily phase thru

Portal creation qualifies as an offense now? Huh.

He keeps Everything ready. He would just observe how others fight and make plans. He can just go back to HM and ready something else.

He would definitely figure out water is haki users Weakness.

Unless he's busy fending off another opponent. Cracker can clap into existence dozens of Gear 3 level soldiers and do it for 11 hours without tiring out. Szayel would be surrounded and needing to fight dozens of Cracker soldiers to try and find anything out.
If not, he'd be busy fighting his own reflection which matches him in everything, but in reverse, because of the Mirror fruit.

Btw can they even see hollows. Espadas can just fly in sky and attack from there. Barragan does do be aging most of the verse.

Assuming this post just means they're allowed to see/interact with hollows, yes. If not, then Haki users with life detection can anyway.
Barragan can be disposed off multiple ways. Either locked inside a Bari Bari dome that's his size, or pinned via Fujitora's gravity and yoinked into Black World where he loses his mind via madness manip.
A precog user like Enel would sense the Respira, stay kilometers away and still consistently nuke Barragan. Considering he made an island vaporizing Raigo with barely the clouds needed, if they're fighting under a regular sky unlike Sky island, Enel's not taking longer than a minute to rain down Raigo nukes on his head.
Alternatively- Law uses room to teleport Sugar right in Barragan's face. Touch, and turned to a toy. Teleport her back. Sugar doesn't age. Her ability renders her ageless and "Frozen in time" going by canon, and his passive respira wouldn't erode her. Unless he's fast enough to react to her being instantly moved in his range, or vice versa with him being moved to her range, he's getting turned into a toy.

The over-reliance on Barragan is hilarious when nearly any competent haki user that doesn't require touch, or a logia (since we know his Respira needs CONTACT with the target for them to start getting effected, as seen with Soifon) can effectively neg his whole existence in the background.

 

[AppleLord]

Szeyalappro can create multiple clones of One Piece Composite to fight in his team. Árbol powers can make infinite amount of clones for Hollow Composite as well. Plus respira nukes? Isn’t this a stomp.

 

[Kachon123]

Brulee can make perfec clones of comp hollow to fight against them.

 

[AppleLord]

Brulee can make perfec clones of comp hollow to fight against them.

Her clones limit can’t compete with infinite clones from árbol.

 

[SnookB]

Her clones limit can’t compete with infinite clones from árbol.

She doesn't have a stated limit. She needs your reflection and that's it, as far as we know.

 

[SnookB]

So many characters get negged before they do anything. Katakuri foresaw gear Fourth and told Luffy to cease with that bs. If he sees what Szayel's about to do he'd just drop a mountain of Mochi on him and beat him to death with multiple Chikara Mochi spawns. (Considering even ONE can throw a heavy/Fast enough strike to catch G4 Luffy and knock the breath out of him, multiple ones are flattening Szayel)
Szayel's copies also require touch before forming. Again- Precognition users like Kat and Luffy would foresee that and warn anyone else. If the copies are created, they get trapped inside the Mirror World, controlled via Parasite strings depending on who it is, or put in a Bari Bari dome- or flash frozen to the bone by Aokiji. (Again, depending on who they are)
Precognition users can be very annoying in a fight like this tbh >_>

 

[AppleLord]

She doesn't have a stated limit. She needs your reflection and that's it, as far as we know.

Any limit is still not infinite. Infinite > any finite not mentioned number.

 

[AppleLord]

So many characters get negged before they do anything.

Reiatsu negates one piece hax.

Katakuri foresaw gear Fourth and told Luffy to cease with that bs. If he sees what Szayel's about to do he'd just drop a mountain of Mochi on him and beat him to death with multiple Chikara Mochi spawns. (Considering even ONE can throw a heavy/Fast enough strike to catch G4 Luffy and knock the breath out of him, multiple ones are flattening Szayel)

There is no Szayel, this is composite which means all Hollows are inside one body. But you may referring to the composite Hollow clones? Anyway, this is useless respira will age that and that would be it.

Szayel's copies also require touch before forming.

Yes, but not physical. Is just if the ink touches you, or if you touch the ink wherever it landed. Imagine Halibel's water power creating a sea (Removing the floor) and ink it with Szayel's power? GG

Again- Precognition users like Kat and Luffy would foresee that and warn anyone else.

That's useful. But do they have counters to their hax in the first place?

If the copies are created, they get trapped inside the Mirror World,

Bfr doesn't work against Bleach characters. Dimension hoping is something fodders can do since chapter one.

controlled via Parasite strings depending on who it is,

This may actually work, if it doesn't get negated with reiatsu.

or put in a Bari Bari dome- or flash frozen to the bone by Aokiji.

This could prevent the arbol clones for sure.

(Again, depending on who they are)
Precognition users can be very annoying in a fight like this tbh >_>

Yes, they do. It depends if they can counter all the hollows hax then they may win.

 

[SnookB]

Any limit is still not infinite. Infinite > any finite not mentioned number.

He has a limit too. The substance still has to touch the target before copying them, so he's not copying any logia, anyone with good enough observation to recognize the threat, or anyone that can seal it in the first place.

There is no Szayel, this is composite which means all Hollows are inside one body. But you may referring to the composite Hollow clones? Anyway, this is useless respira will age that and that would be it.

Respira isn't saving anyone if Sugar touches Barragan first.

Yes, but not physical. Is just if the ink touches you, or if you touch the ink wherever it landed. Imagine Halibel's water power creating a sea (Removing the floor) and ink it with Szayel's power? GG

Logia dispersal, and anyone who can fly, and anyone with good Kenbunshoku evades it. Enel nukes Szayel before he even tries. Aokiji flash freezes everything instantly and ends it there. Szayel isn't coming back from being frozen to the bone in an instant (considering Aokiji can create iceberg thick continents of ice in a second or less)

That's useful. But do they have counters to their hax in the first place?

Kat can regrow entire limbs and hit you from long as hell ranges. If not, then fra. Kat and Sugar combo is negging Barragan. (Katakuri continuously turning everything around into mochi as its getting eroded while Sugar gets close as Barragan's getting pressed, and touches him.)

Yes, they do. It depends if they can counter all the hollows hax then they may win.

No reason they shouldn't. All the competent precog users have abilities that can cover a lot of the field.
Aokiji showed Kenbunshoku (to scatter before WB could hit him, just like Kat) and he can create continents of ice instantly.
Katakuri, you already know. Awakening turns city ranges into Mochi, even creates his Chikara Mochi near the target to pummel them. Fire manip, and long range attack via Grilled Mochi.
Luffy, you already know. Barrier creation, dura neg, flight, speed amps, resistances to poisons, corrosion, crazy high resistance to cutting, slashing, piercing.
Enel. The OG kenbunshoku user, though he can "sense" the attacks, not see them, he has the advantage of clouds in this scenario and can basically create island sized Raigos whenever and nuke everything below with Lightning spam.
Sanji has flight, regen high enough to restore bones and internal organs, resistance to slashing, cutting, piercing, can create fire hot enough to ionize air and bypasses dura to burn targets bones on the inside.

Almost every logia is making the environment hell for the Hollows.
A magma hellscape, options of flash freezing nigh-instantaneously, Enel's guarding the skies at all times via Raigo Spam and AOE lightning that Enel himself says is stronger than any attack he's shown, including El Thor and its wide range. Kizaru dankmaku via light without needing to get closer.

There's also Apoo, who "if you hear, you get tagged" by. Any Hollow he sets his eyes on and that hollow hears his attack, they get hit. It's instantaneous and even future sight user like Luffy couldn't avoid it, because it's unavoidable once you hear it. (Unless you escape his line of sight) So he's controlling quite a few of the hollows if given protection.

 

[Kidkinsey]

Yeah its looking like Team OP is in the lead due to precog. 1 shot abilities and battlefield control

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Portal creation qualifies as an offense now? Huh.

I wasn't talking about portal CREATION they can moved through objects just like how logia users does.

Unless he's busy fending off another opponent. Cracker can clap into existence dozens of Gear 3 level soldiers and do it for 11 hours without tiring out. Szayel would be surrounded and needing to fight dozens of Cracker soldiers to try and find anything out.

If they can't touch any hollows it's useless

If not, he'd be busy fighting his own reflection which matches him in everything, but in reverse, because of the Mirror fruit.

He would use clones to fend of them and work on a plan

Assuming this post just means they're allowed to see/interact with hollows, yes. If not, then Haki users with life detection can anyway.

Post never stated anything about seeing souls. Can you send scan for haki users seeing souls.

Barragan can be disposed off multiple ways. Either locked inside a Bari Bari dome that's his size, or pinned via Fujitora's gravity and yoinked into Black World where he loses his mind via madness manip.
A precog user like Enel would sense the Respira, stay kilometers away and still consistently nuke Barragan. Considering he made an island vaporizing Raigo with barely the clouds needed, if they're fighting under a regular sky unlike Sky island, Enel's not taking longer than a minute to rain down Raigo nukes on his head.
Alternatively- Law uses room to teleport Sugar right in Barragan's face. Touch, and turned to a toy. Teleport her back. Sugar doesn't age. Her ability renders her ageless and "Frozen in time" going by canon, and his passive respira wouldn't erode her. Unless he's fast enough to react to her being instantly moved in his range, or vice versa with him being moved to her range, he's getting turned into a toy.

The over-reliance on Barragan is hilarious when nearly any competent haki user that doesn't require touch, or a logia (since we know his Respira needs CONTACT with the target for them to start getting effected, as seen with Soifon) can effectively neg his whole existence in the background.

You have very less knowledge on Barragan abilities. Barragan lost because hachi used spells based on times.

 

[SnookB]

I wasn't talking about portal CREATION they can moved through objects just like how logia users does.

Yes, and Logias still can't phase through some abilities due to haki rendering most intangible things tangible.

If they can't touch any hollows it's useless

Brook and Big Mom can, even without verse equalization. HUMAN CHAD COULD TOUCH A HOLLOW. They're dense spirit energy and can be interacted with. They phase through walls but we've never seen them kill anyone via phasing through them, or go intangible to survive an attack. unless I forgot.

He would use clones to fend of them and work on a plan

His clone would do the same thing. Mirror reflections literally do EVERYTHING YOU DO. They copied Luffy's ability to stretch, his speed, etc, perfectly. Szayel would be stuck fighting himself until someone cheap shots him or someone like Enel vaporizes him.

Post never stated anything about seeing souls. Can you send scan for haki users seeing souls.

Fujitora's blind and can see people via sensing. He detects their presence via the aura of their souls/beings down to how many there are and everything. Usopp can see targets through walls based on their presence. Luffy shouldn't be lower than Fujitora, same as Katakuri. And anyone competent enough with Haki to detect "presence". It's literally unexplained what they see, but it's obvious that they see beyond the physical.
Kenbunshoku is layered. It senses presence, reads thoughts, allows empathy, predicts the future, senses the future, SEES the future, sees the future based on intent, emotions or mind reading, can detect "life" down to the literal numbers and battle power within several kilometers range, etc..

You have very less knowledge on Barragan abilities. Barragan lost because hachi used spells based on times.

Baraggan lost because his ability was detonated inside of his own body.
Again- all it takes is for Law to teleport Sugar in Barragan's face and he's done for. Not like he can age or decay her to death since she's literally ageless and frozen in time.

Ya'll using "composite One Piece", right? BACCARAT's probablity manip negs everyone. She just absorps the luck off other characters on her side, or even fodder, and literally nobody is touching her for a while. Probablity won't allow it. Law just teleports Baccarat holding sugar, and Baraggan fails to defend them because they're just THAT lucky and ends up turning into a doll.
Bleach is haxxy, but you're forgetting how shitpost hax One Piece can get.

 

[Deceived3596]

Since things are getting a little convoluted in-terms of what side is arguing what, i'm going to ask the One Piece said to create 3 main win-cons and for the Bleach side to do the same. Doing this should hopefully narrow things down more and give some-sort of coherence to this thread.

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I'll start with the 3 main win-cons for Bleach:

1: Barragan's Respira passively negating most (if not all) of Composite One Piece's attacks through aging them away Physically and Spiritually and then aging away Composite One Piece itself since it hasn't been proven yet that Souls within One Piece are in-fact immortal in the sense of having Type 1 Immortality. As such until that burden is proven the Souls within One Piece are assumed to age and such would get aged by Barragan's Respira.

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2: Composite Hollow flying up and showering the landscape with 100's of Cero Oscuras and Grand Rey Cero that destroy the target's Soul, have massive AOE (One Cero Oscuras/GRC Being able to destroy Las Noches) and are 10x above the Base Attack Potency of Composite Hollow which in-turn means it's 10x above the Base Attack Potency of Composite One Piece as well.

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3: Composite Hollow using Yammy's Gonzui to absorb Composite One Piece's Soul from an distance or duplicating themselves a countless number of times with Szyael's Carbon Copy and having them contribute to both of the previous win-cons listed.

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So these are Composite Hollow's main 3 win-cons. (IMO)

What are Composite OP's?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

In verse she specifically has not aged since she ate her fruit (also the face that she only has potential longevity when superhumans in One piece can live longer then 140 years kinda annoys me)

That does not mean type 1 immortality

And respira of barragan can age stuff that can last thousands of years in moments

 

[SnookB]

1: Barragan gets disposed of Via Law/Sugar combo. Room is intangible and he can't prevent its creation, Sugar gets teleported into his range and he gets turned into a toy. Everyone else gets taken on just fine in close range and long range with how variable the logias and ability users can be.

2: The precognition users foresee a minute or so ahead and immidiately go on the offense. The field gets reduced to nothing. Awakened users turn city ranges into their elements and the Hollows get attack from every direction possible by 2 awakened users and Danmaku users that fire hundreds of attacks, each of which have HUGE Aoe that can destroy the trees in Sabaody that are nearly city sized. Enel guards the sky with raigos and thunderclouds and spams AOE if anyone tries escaping to the air. Law teleports back anyone who tries escaping without a portal into the range of the Logia hellscape.
Characters like Luffy escape liquid explosions that detonate physically stuck to their bodies (as in, they escape the center of detonation and the fireball afterwards) so they should have no issue avoiding Ceros if they're either fast enough or become intangible via their element. Not hitting their "true body" wouldn't damage them regardless.
Busoshoku users competent users can use barriers to block out AOE if necessary. (Yamato, Luffy, the 3 admirals all showed this) Luffy has shown telepathy up to kilometers with several targets and conveying what he or Katakuri foresee to multiple characters shouldn't be difficult.

3: Both reasons above, combined with the fact that Fujitora has absolutely no reason to hold back. The majority of characters escape into Mirror World, Inside Bege, or become intangible, while Fujitora within Bari Bari's protection meteorite spams the entire field until the hollows are reduced to nothing. The higher tier hollows get taken care of by the likes of Luffy, Katakuri, and even the admirals who all have MASSIVE field control and precognition on their side. Law's room prep and Kenbunshoku allows him to detect the foe and cut them from a distance without actually injuring them, just seperating them via space manip and dura neg.
Gonzui is resisted by anyone who has the smallest Riatsu, and only works on human fodder making it even less useless than the initial CoC. Equalization and unallowance of Soul Crush means we're equalling AP to resistance, so no one gets their souls taken by Gonzui other than potential cannon fodder or Pawn Homies/Homies in general if they're included.

Overall field control, intangibility, precognition, and multiple characters that can either fly OR hit targets from kilometers away should have this in without including the entirety of the verse.

 

[SnookB]

That does not mean type 1 immortality

And respira of barragan can age stuff that can last thousands of years in moments

Sugar is immortal, as in non-aging. She doesn't have a long lifespan or anything. It flat out says:

The fruit FREEZES ITS EATER IN TIME, NEVER TO AGE.


It doesn't get clearer than that.

Lord..

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

How will the characters in One Piece touch a Hollow?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

FYI since this is composite hollow it means they are coated on the same aging power as barragan

So no one is touching him

+ time hax he has around him to slow anyone that enters his range

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sugar is immortal, as in non-aging. She doesn't have a long lifespan or anything. It flat out says:

The fruit FREEZES ITS EATER IN TIME, NEVER TO AGE.


It doesn't get clearer than that.

Frozen time would be kicking when Barragan respira touches her. Anyway let me see what kinda of spells Hachi used it against Barragan pretty sure he also used time stop of something.

 

[SnookB]

Frozen time would be kicking when Barragan respira touches her. Anyway let me see what kinda of spells Hachi used it against Barragan pretty sure he also used time stop of something.

No reason to. If she doesn't age, then she won't decay. Simple as that. Time slows around him when he's cheap shotted, but teleporting someone instantaneously within his range isn't impossible. There's a difference between high speed and TELEPORTATION.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No reason to. If she doesn't age, then she won't decay. Simple as that. Time slows around him when he's cheap shotted, but teleporting someone instantaneously within his range isn't impossible. There's a difference between high speed and TELEPORTATION.

No one said anything about high speed or teleportation. The fruit only freezing the time of user it didn't erased time from user itself. Barragan age anything which has time.

Anyway let me see what hachi did with his kidos.

 

[SnookB]

No one said anything about high speed or teleportation. The fruit only freezing the time of user it didn't erased time from user itself. Barragan age anything which has time.

Anyway let me see what hachi did with his kidos.

It literally says it makes her immortal. "Freezing her in time" is likely just a saying on the fact that instead of letting her hit a certain age then be immortal, it froze her at the age of 10. It isn't eternal youth, it's "your aging ceases to be at whatever age you are".
She's basically immortal, as in undying. She can be killed, but not die of old age.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

No reason to. If she doesn't age, then she won't decay. Simple as that. Time slows around him when he's cheap shotted, but teleporting someone instantaneously within his range isn't impossible. There's a difference between high speed and TELEPORTATION.

Teleporting him close to the enemy will do more harm to the enemy considering CH is coated on the respira

 

[LordGinSama]

Law's spatial cutting should counter Respira.

Matter of fact I don't really remember any Hollow in particular resisting spatial manipulation that negates resistance to spatial manipulation. That that's a layered resistance as well which Law can overcome, and much like Lillie Barro Law's attacks lack a travel time, and unfortunately for the Hollows they don't have anything similar to Lillie's ability.

 

[Ryuga21]

How will the characters in One Piece touch a Hollow?

Soru Soru no Mi makes the user capable of interact with Souls

 

[AppleLord]

He has a limit too. The substance still has to touch the target before copying them, so he's not copying any logia, anyone with good enough observation to recognize the threat, or anyone that can seal it in the first place.

Scyzel yes, Arbol doesn't. Arbol is infinite. This is a combo of multiple Composite Hollows and Composite One Piece vs Composite One Piece.

Respira isn't saving anyone if Sugar touches Barragan first.

You have to teleport attacks inside Barragan for this to even work, Barragan is sorrounded with his own respira and it doesn't affect him on the outside. He has a barrier against it.

Logia dispersal, and anyone who can fly, and anyone with good Kenbunshoku evades it. Enel nukes Szayel before he even tries. Aokiji flash freezes everything instantly and ends it there. Szayel isn't coming back from being frozen to the bone in an instant (considering Aokiji can create iceberg thick continents of ice in a second or less)

Flying characters are at a disadvantage against Cero Metralleta GG

Kat can regrow entire limbs and hit you from long as hell ranges. If not, then fra. Kat and Sugar combo is negging Barragan. (Katakuri continuously turning everything around into mochi as its getting eroded while Sugar gets close as Barragan's getting pressed, and touches him.)

Limit regeneration ain't helping, all hollows have regeneration and Barragan is still unseated from his throne. That combination won't work as per my comment above.

No reason they shouldn't. All the competent precog users have abilities that can cover a lot of the field.
Aokiji showed Kenbunshoku (to scatter before WB could hit him, just like Kat) and he can create continents of ice instantly.
Katakuri, you already know. Awakening turns city ranges into Mochi, even creates his Chikara Mochi near the target to pummel them. Fire manip, and long range attack via Grilled Mochi.
Luffy, you already know. Barrier creation, dura neg, flight, speed amps, resistances to poisons, corrosion, crazy high resistance to cutting, slashing, piercing.
Enel. The OG kenbunshoku user, though he can "sense" the attacks, not see them, he has the advantage of clouds in this scenario and can basically create island sized Raigos whenever and nuke everything below with Lightning spam.
Sanji has flight, regen high enough to restore bones and internal organs, resistance to slashing, cutting, piercing, can create fire hot enough to ionize air and bypasses dura to burn targets bones on the inside.

It all comes down to speed and power and Bleach has that cover.

Almost every logia is making the environment hell for the Hollows.
A magma hellscape, options of flash freezing nigh-instantaneously, Enel's guarding the skies at all times via Raigo Spam and AOE lightning that Enel himself says is stronger than any attack he's shown, including El Thor and its wide range. Kizaru dankmaku via light without needing to get closer.

All Hollows can fly.

There's also Apoo, who "if you hear, you get tagged" by. Any Hollow he sets his eyes on and that hollow hears his attack, they get hit. It's instantaneous and even future sight user like Luffy couldn't avoid it, because it's unavoidable once you hear it. (Unless you escape his line of sight) So he's controlling quite a few of the hollows if given protection.

Amor gives them control over again from that power. Or they can easily attack while jumping between dimensions like Fisher D. Bone did in chapter one.

 

[AppleLord]

Law's spatial cutting should counter Respira.

Matter of fact I don't really remember any Hollow in particular resisting spatial manipulation that negates resistance to spatial manipulation. That that's a layered resistance as well which Law can overcome, and much like Lillie Barro Law's attacks lack a travel time, and unfortunately for the Hollows they don't have anything similar to Lillie's ability.

Cutting through reality isn't really useful. Hollows can TOUCH AND GRAB reality while shinigami can break through dimensions and even cut the sky. Respira ages "time" is a time manipulation abiltity. The spatial cut is getting age to the point the attack already dissippated.

 

[Deceived3596]

1: Barragan gets disposed of Via Law/Sugar combo. Room is intangible and he can't prevent its creation, Sugar gets teleported into his range and he gets turned into a toy. Everyone else gets taken on just fine in close range and long range with how variable the logias and ability users can be.

Suger's ability to turn others into a doll gets negated through Barragan's Respira which again ages things on a physical and spiritual level and since you still haven't proved that Souls within One Piece have Immortality (Type 1) or that we should assume that they should, so until then that argument isn't working. All Logia's get negated through Soul Manipulation from Composite Hollow so that doesn't matter at all.

2: The precognition users foresee a minute or so ahead and immidiately go on the offense. The field gets reduced to nothing. Awakened users turn city ranges into their elements and the Hollows get attack from every direction possible by 2 awakened users and Danmaku users that fire hundreds of attacks, each of which have HUGE Aoe that can destroy the trees in Sabaody that are nearly city sized. Enel guards the sky with raigos and thunderclouds and spams AOE if anyone tries escaping to the air. Law teleports back anyone who tries escaping without a portal into the range of the Logia hellscape.
Characters like Luffy escape liquid explosions that detonate physically stuck to their bodies (as in, they escape the center of detonation and the fireball afterwards) so they should have no issue avoiding Ceros if they're either fast enough or become intangible via their element. Not hitting their "true body" wouldn't damage them regardless.
Busoshoku users competent users can use barriers to block out AOE if necessary. (Yamato, Luffy, the 3 admirals all showed this) Luffy has shown telepathy up to kilometers with several targets and conveying what he or Katakuri foresee to multiple characters shouldn't be difficult.

The Precog of Composite One Piece is really good so i won't disagree with them instantly going on the offense with their abilities. Composite Hollow's posses inherent flight through their ability to manipulate the Reishi that exist under their feet to create a plat-form so laying waste to the battlefield won't really do anything to Composite Hollow. All of those elements/Danmaku spam, regardless of their AOE get aged and corroded into dust so that doesn't help Comp OP. Does Spatial Manipulation in anyway effect Law's Room? because if it does then Composite Hollow could just shoot of 100's of Grand Rey Cero's to completely destroy/warp the space of the Room which should allow them to escape the Room.

Doubt they could avoid the Cero's with "No Issue" given their Massive AOE and the sheer number of them being shot through things like Wonderwiess's 100's of hands, Luupi's Tentacles or Starkk's Guns. Becoming elementally intangible doesn't allow you to resist Soul Manipulation unless said EI has shown said feats. What do you mean by "True Body"?

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Can they block attacks an order of magnitude above the users own Attack Potency?

3: Both reasons above, combined with the fact that Fujitora has absolutely no reason to hold back. The majority of characters escape into Mirror World, Inside Bege, or become intangible, while Fujitora within Bari Bari's protection meteorite spams the entire field until the hollows are reduced to nothing. The higher tier hollows get taken care of by the likes of Luffy, Katakuri, and even the admirals who all have MASSIVE field control and precognition on their side. Law's room prep and Kenbunshoku allows him to detect the foe and cut them from a distance without actually injuring them, just seperating them via space manip and dura neg.
Gonzui is resisted by anyone who has the smallest Riatsu, and only works on human fodder making it even less useless than the initial CoC. Equalization and unallowance of Soul Crush means we're equalling AP to resistance, so no one gets their souls taken by Gonzui other than potential cannon fodder or Pawn Homies/Homies in general if they're included.

Composite Hollow could just travel into Mirror World via Garganta's, Meteor's get erased by countless Cero Oscuras and Grand Rey Cero spam or aged into dust by Respira. Precog only means something if they can dodge the absolute onslaught of Cero's shot by Composite Bleach which is something your going to have to prove. Law's Room should get negated through constant GRC spam and Composite Bleach can do the same thing with Reirkaku which tells the user the location and power-level of one's opponent. Reiatsu isn't AP-Based so equalizing AP doesn't allow you to resist Gonzui and Human's in Bleach posses inherent resistances to Soul Manipulation, which should be on the same-level as the one's in One Piece, so it should work against them the same way it did against those Humans.

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Also you know this is Composite One Piece vs Composite Hollow right? as in all the characters of both series(One Piece)/race (Hollow's) are composited into a singular being with all of their abilities and attributes.

 

[LordGinSama]

Cutting through reality isn't really useful. Hollows can TOUCH AND GRAB reality while shinigami can break through dimensions and even cut the sky.

First of all, neither Law or Hollows grab or effect reality, they affect space. And Law's is objectively more potent given its layers.

Respira ages "time" is a time manipulation abiltity. The spatial cut is getting age to the point the attack already dissippated.

You need to prove it can age space itself. Also Kizaru, light doesn't age so age so his fruit also helps.

 

[AppleLord]

First of all, neither Law or Hollows grab or effect reality, they affect space. And Law's is objectively more potent given its layers.

Having different layers, doesn't make it more potent. The point is that they can interact with each other.

You need to prove it can age space itself. Also Kizaru, light doesn't age so age so his fruit also helps.

Kizaru doesn't age but that's his power. Respira ages pass his power. As respira ages time and according to Einstein below VVV

Time: The fourth dimension of the universe
Einstein, however, introduced the concept of a fourth dimension — time — that meant that space and time were inextricably linked. The general theory of relativity suggests that space-time expands and contracts depending on the momentum and mass of nearby matter.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

First of all, neither Law or Hollows grab or effect reality, they affect space. And Law's is objectively more potent given its layers.

Respira ages whole techniques places around him. You need directly teleportation within his body.

 

[AppleLord]

The issue is that Respira ages everything asymptotically: flesh, stone, energy, magic...everything breaks down to pure nothingness when it reaches eternity. It is a perfect defense as well as a perfect offense.

In fact, let me show this with a graph (and hopefully it will be a bit easier to understand).

And this is why it's so dangerous. Because it doesn't matter if you're unaging or even immoral, because the paradoxical nature of infinity will break you down regardless. The magic that keeps you immortal will be dispelled, the matter that composes your body will cease to exist...and that's assuming you're not affected by time normally (in which case you'll simply decay and wither).

Of course, if your Reiatsu is high enough you can just push back the Respira with it.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No reason to. If she doesn't age, then she won't decay. Simple as that. Time slows around him when he's cheap shotted, but teleporting someone instantaneously within his range isn't impossible. There's a difference between high speed and TELEPORTATION.

You didn't understand my point. I said the devil fruit stated to freezes time of the user. It's nowhere stated to be timeless.

The issue is that Respira ages everything asymptotically: flesh, stone, energy, magic...everything breaks down to pure nothingness when it reaches eternity. It is a perfect defense as well as a perfect offense.

In fact, let me show this with a graph (and hopefully it will be a bit easier to understand).

And this is why it's so dangerous. Because it doesn't matter if you're unaging or even immoral, because the paradoxical nature of infinity will break you down regardless. The magic that keeps you immortal will be dispelled, the matter that composes your body will cease to exist...and that's assuming you're not affected by time normally (in which case you'll simply decay and wither).

Of course, if your Reiatsu is high enough you can just push back the Respira with it.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Gonzui for taking and eating souls

Regen

Able to control the body of anyone u look at

Can teleport out of dimensions if BFR

Caja negation which is BFR


Make clones with the exact same powers as the original via the ink

Make dolls to break the opponent

Make soldiers via that guard hollow

Able to devour and copy all the powers of the people u ate

Enhance durability via hierro

Water hax

Time hax via barragan, slow time around the user and makes its body coated on the same power as respira

Ceros, Cero metralleta (up to 1K ceros at once), cero oscuras, Grad Rey cero

 

[Deceived3596]

AppleLord brought out the Graph on yo ass Gin. What's your response.

 

[StekFence]

The issue is that Respira ages everything asymptotically: flesh, stone, energy, magic...everything breaks down to pure nothingness when it reaches eternity. It is a perfect defense as well as a perfect offense.

In fact, let me show this with a graph (and hopefully it will be a bit easier to understand).

And this is why it's so dangerous. Because it doesn't matter if you're unaging or even immoral, because the paradoxical nature of infinity will break you down regardless. The magic that keeps you immortal will be dispelled, the matter that composes your body will cease to exist...and that's assuming you're not affected by time normally (in which case you'll simply decay and wither).

Of course, if your Reiatsu is high enough you can just push back the Respira with it.

Where did you get a graph

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

AppleLord brought out the Graph on yo ass Gin. What's your response.

AppleLord on Demon time .

 

[AppleLord]

I'll go watch Walking Dead now. I'll come back tonight to see any responses if this is still open to discussion.

 

[StekFence]

Having different layers, doesn't make it more potent. The point is that they can interact with each other.

Kizaru doesn't age but that's his power. Respira ages pass his power. As respira ages time and according to Einstein below VVV

Would that give every time manip user space manip as well?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Would that give every time manip user space manip as well?

I don't think talked about space time manipulation.