Complete Arceus VS Complete form Cronus

[Primaris_Brian]

So anyway believing himself is a supreme god, cronus then trying to invade the pokemon verse in order to satisfy his ambitions, Arceus won't let this happen!

- Arceus

- Cronus

Anyway ignore the title since after considering this I decide to remove the Trio.

So who going win?



Supreme god in his mind! Anyway Zeus for the win!


The God of the Pokemon Multiverse.

 

[Salavtore]

Kind of an unfair match up.

Arceus vs Cronus alone would be a fair matched fight probably.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Kind of an unfair match up.
Arceus vs Cronus alone would be a fair matched fight probably.

That was my original plan, but i'm not sure that acerus can take down cronus by speed alone since cronus has better durability and DC and it seems has better hax as well, also i belive Arceus is much more powerful than the Trio so i think they just act like a bonus for him.

 

[Salavtore]

Ah okay i see, good point on the speed part then.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Bump.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Speed alone is enough when it's immesurable. There's no way in Tartarus (Saint Seiya reference) that he could tag Arceus. Both have timestop, but Arceus has enough hax with Palkia's and Giratina's abilities, plus negation is important. And Arceus is at least too. I don't know why he doesn't have the +

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Speed alone is enough when it's immesurable. There's no way in Tartarus (Saint Seiya reference) that he could tag Arceus. Both have timestop, but Arceus has enough hax with Palkia's and Giratina's abilities, plus negation is important. And Arceus is at least too. I don't know why he doesn't have the +

well if you want this to become little harder than i can equalize the speed, since when i first time create this match I still don't quite understand about this immeasurable speed.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Just take out the trio and it'll be fairer. They make it overkill.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

done.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Alright. Still giving it to Arceus for speed and negation hax.

 

[Tivanenk]

Giving it to Cronus honestly for his loaded kit. He can induce death into Arceus.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Arceus is a lot faster though, and as he should logically have Palkia's and Giratina's abilities, along with his plates for negation, I doubt Cronus would have the chance to induce death

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

arceus wins now due to speed.

 

[LlamaGod1411]

Arceus, a lot faster than Cronus.


Higher DC really isn't going to do much when you can't hit your opponent.

 

[Tivanenk]

Cronos can just destroy the entire space-time continuity. And honestly, complete Cronos at full power should be immeasurable since Titan's existed before the multiverse's creation.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Cronos can just destroy the entire space-time continuity. And honestly, complete Cronos at full power should be immeasurable since Titan's existed before the multiverse's creation.

So can and so did Arceus

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

also what is stopping Arceus from speed blitzing Cronus? Explain that to me.

 

[Tivanenk]

Cronos can just destroy the entire space-time continuity. And honestly, complete Cronos at full power should be immeasurable since Titan's existed before the multiverse's creation.

So can and so did Arceus

So why does Arceus win?

 

[LlamaGod1411]

Cronos can just destroy the entire space-time continuity. And honestly, complete Cronos at full power should be immeasurable since Titan's existed before the multiverse's creation.

Arceus Existed Before the Multiverse's creation too.


Heck, it created Space&Time.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

speed and hax as well as plates.

 

[Tivanenk]

speed and hax as well as plates.

Speed should be identical, and Cronus is more hax.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

yet it isn't. Going by files here arceus is far faster.

 

[LlamaGod1411]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cronus


https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arceus


@Tivanenk

 

[Tivanenk]

Well, the Cronus profile is incomplete because the entire thing isn't even translated to English. The one who made the profile only read bits and scraps of Spanish translations. But it is proven that Cronus existed before the multiverse and is 4-D (at the very least), which means his speed should be immeasurable.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well, the Cronus profile is incomplete because the entire thing isn't even translated to English. The one who made the profile only read bits and scraps of Spanish translations. But it is proven that Cronus existed before the multiverse and is 4-D (at the very least), which means his speed should be immeasurable.

Well as of this moment his speed is NOT immeasurable by our files and thus Arceus blitzes.

 

[Tivanenk]

snip.
If you want to assert that, then we can also say stomp thread and just scrap it. But tell me then, how will Arceus kill him?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Via attacking. that plus just means he can take a little more Multi-Universal attacks. Arceus can still kill him.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Arceus can still attack the soul via Ghost Hax.

 

[Tivanenk]

Multi-universe+ >>>>>>> multi-universe. Pokemon only has 6 confirmed universes. Saint Seiya has many more than that. Arceus can't harm him. It's like saying that a solar system can hurt a universe level person.

Soul attacks are useless as shown when even regular Titans resisted against Shaka's attacks.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

There are many more actually considering what the anime brought to light concerning the mirror cave. But to get down to the flaws with that. This is nothing compared to that. Arceus has Antimatter, can create universal beings to aid him. Plates to deflect attacks. The gap between the two aren't that large. Arceus has High-Level Reality Warping, Conceptual Manipulation and many more. I highly doubt Arceus could defeat Cronus, definitly with that speed difference.

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

If what @Tivanenk is saying is true than Cronus if not than Arceus but tbh I don't know what to believe from Arceus the Pokemon universe creation is like Narutos moon creation has retcons some say Arceus created the worlds like in the movie others say he created the creation trio who then created the worlds how'd you know which is true?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

If what @Tivanenk is saying is true than Cronus if not than Arceus but tbh I don't know what to believe from Arceus the Pokemon universe creation is like Narutos moon creation has retcons some say Arceus created the worlds like in the movie others say he created the creation trio who then created the worlds how'd you know which is true?

He created the creation trio and can also curbstomp them when need be. So it is pretty much considered that arceus is at least this strong as he is.

 

[Akuto_Sai12]

He is strong Pokemon writers just riddle him with PIS to make him look weak lol

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Arceus is the prime target of PIS.

 

[Tivanenk]

There are many more actually considering what the anime brought to light concerning the mirror cave. But to get down to the flaws with that. This is nothing compared to that. Arceus has Antimatter, can create universal beings to aid him. Plates to deflect attacks. The gap between the two aren't that large. Arceus has High-Level Reality Warping, Conceptual Manipulation and many more. I highly doubt Arceus could defeat Cronus, definitly with that speed difference.

Plates won't help since many of Cronos attacks bypass barriers and defenses like Zeus' Lightning Seals. Reality warping won't work since Olympian Gods resisted that stuff and Kronos is way above Apollo who can warp that stuff. Also, conceptual manipulation is useless because the Titans are above concepts in the first place.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

what are the lightning seals?

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

Well, the Cronus profile is incomplete because the entire thing isn't even translated to English. The one who made the profile only read bits and scraps of Spanish translations. But it is proven that Cronus existed before the multiverse and is 4-D (at the very least), which means his speed should be immeasurable.

If you have translated scans you can create a content revision thread about Cronus speed.

 

[LlamaGod1411]

Lol, not many Legendary Pokemons have resistance against the almighty PIS.


And doesn't Arceus have Intangibility technically?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Lol, not many Legendary Pokemons have resistance against the almighty PIS.

And doesn't Arceus have Intangibility technically?

Yeah but I doubt SS characters couldn't gt through that.

 

[Tivanenk]

snip

I don't, I roughly translated the meaning using the help of GT. And I'm translating Assassin right now, so unless someone picks it up after 2 years, then we'll have to wait until I catch up with that.

BTW, Cronos bypasses intangibility.