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Complete Arceus VS Complete form Cronus

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Dragonmasterxyz said:
what are the lightning seals?
Seals from Zeus, who's a god tier in Saint Seiya verse (and above Arceus). He ascended to another realm altogether compared to Olympian Gods.
 
eh I wouldn't say he's above Arceus yet since I'm working on an Arceus Upgrade thread right now.
 
Akuto Sai12 said:
I did a bit of research and cronus did infact live within nothingness it's in something called the hypermyth
Well, the lore is quite extensive for SS, but you are correct. Gaia birthed the Titans into this sea of nothingness and I believe it was Kronos who started the Big Bang and jumpstarted the multi-universe (at least multi-universe if not multiverse)
 
Then this thread should be delayed for a bit until Cronus"s profile gets completed it will be pretty even then since Arceus is haxxed too
 
I would need to work with Matthew on that, since I think only we two really read the Episode G series.
 
Akuto Sai12 said:
If what @Tivanenk is saying is true than Cronus if not than Arceus but tbh I don't know what to believe from Arceus the Pokemon universe creation is like Narutos moon creation has retcons some say Arceus created the worlds like in the movie others say he created the creation trio who then created the worlds how'd you know which is true?
Even in composite profiles the main canon takes precedence. That is, the games, where it was cemented that Arceus created the concepts of and established the fundamental laws of the Multiverse whilst the Creation Trio did the actual heavy lifting, though technically, in a strange way Arceus did all these things itself as The Creation Trio are just parts of it, as are the Lake Guardians.

Either way, they do seem evenly matched hax wise albeit Cronus's Low-godly generation and immortality gives him the edge.

The current speed advantage is likely the only way Arceus wins this one, and his conceptual manipulation.
 
TheMightyRegulator said:
Even in composite profiles the main canon takes precedence. That is, the games, where it was cemented that Arceus created the concepts of and established the fundamental laws of the Multiverse whilst the Creation Trio did the actual heavy lifting, though technically, in a strange way Arceus did all these things itself as The Creation Trio are just parts of it, as are the Lake Guardians.
Either way, they do seem evenly matched hax wise albeit Cronus's Low-godly generation and immortality gives him the edge.

The current speed advantage is likely the only way Arceus wins this one, and his conceptual manipulation.

Tivanenk claims that Cronus speed is also immeasurable, so this thread should be on hold for the moment I think. Because if his claim is true then we would have to remove Arceus victory later anyway, which would be waste of time
 
i could, plus am planning on making a thread to upgrade cronus to 2-A via him having the capacity to destroy all of history (which is infinite)
 
Literally no 2C and many 2B has an hax advantage over arceus(AFAIK),the thing is,arceus has extensive conceptual manipulation feats,that spans upto multiverseral,and as far as i have seen,no other 2c-2b has similar conceptual manipulation/creation/attack feats,all 2c-2b do reality warp but they use existing concepts,whereas arceus isn't bothered by them since,arceus created all concepts that can be comprehended by us.so even if we were to ignore the infinite speed advantage,there's nothing i see on cronus's profile that would affect arceus,since arceus isn't bound by the concepts that cronus is using to attack him in the first place,and arceus can very well override cronus's causality manipulation with his own conceptual manipulation/destruction/creation.

i vote for arceus.
 
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