Cloud vs Sora

[foxhunter]

Strongest forms
Speed equal
Fight take place at the edge of creation

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Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy)

Cloud Strife is the main protagonist of Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, also appearing in the spin-off games of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII, with a minor appearance Dirge of Cerberus -Final Fantasy VII- and Before Crisis -Final Fantasy VII-, as well as a...

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Sora (Kingdom Hearts)

Sora is a cheerful, young boy hailing from the Destiny Islands and the main protagonist of the Kingdom Hearts series. Longing to see the worlds outside of his own, he and his friends Riku and Kairi pledged to build a raft and set out together. However, on their planned day of departure, a freak...

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[foxhunter]

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[Axl233]

There is nothing that Cloud could do to put down Sora or i missing something?

 

[foxhunter]

There is nothing that Cloud could do to put down Sora or i missing something?

What can sora do to put down cloud, and does sora resist law or absolute zero?

 

[Axl233]

What can sora do to put down cloud, and does sora resist law or absolute zero?

Sora has power of waking and the funny passive fate hax that prevents death and incap.

 

[Axl233]

Plus he negates cloud's regen.

 

[foxhunter]

Sora has power of waking and the funny passive fate hax that prevents death and incap.

What is the power of awakening? how does he use the fate manipulation I’m not sure if fate would be a problem considering cloud fighting the whispers of fate however I’m unsure how that’ll fit in timeline of dissidia, but explain how does power of waking counter the abilities I mentioned?

 

[foxhunter]

Plus he negates cloud's regen.

Why?

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Can Sora resist law hax?
Are fates in KH above Law?

 

[Bobsican]

no
This in fact is why KH couldn't get past FF in 2-A spots

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Then yeah Cloud will power law hax to change the law to his favor and can render some things null that way

 

[foxhunter]

Ah why is ff law above kh fate manipulation? And what is the likely hood of them starting off with those abilities?

 

[Bobsican]

Something something type 4 acausality.

It extends to all magic IIRC, so pretty likely.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Cloud is also natively a Type 4 acausal due to being born from the Lifestream, and if he realizes he's being controlled by fate despite that he can actually break free of it by force.

Say, I missed on a lot of stuff from the KH revisions, but weren't the rules of Castle Oblivion considered a form of Law Manip?

 

[foxhunter]

Something something type 4 acausality.

It extends to all magic IIRC, so pretty likely.

Ah I see

 

[Bobsican]

Cloud is also natively a Type 4 acausal due to being born from the Lifestream, and if he realizes he's being controlled by fate despite that he can actually break free of it by force.

Say, I missed on a lot of stuff from the KH revisions, but weren't the rules of Castle Oblivion considered a form of Law Manip?

Yes, but they only extend to the CoM key, and so it isn't a thing in the 2-A ones

 

[Axl233]

i guess Sora now solos the FF verse.

 

[Bobsican]

For now, Axl233, for now
Sora even in the 2-B keys is now a smurf.

 

[foxhunter]

i guess Sora now solos the FF verse.

Seem like it for now

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

kH is low 1-C now?

Time to goon

 

[Bobsican]

 

[TartaChocholate]

I'm pretty okay with that =P

 

[Robo432343]

stomp?

 

[TartaChocholate]

Yeh, Sora stat stomps now and higher dimensionality makes all of Cloud's abilities useless. This is now a stomp unless FF bumps up to Tier 1 somehow.